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Massad Ayoub

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I hope I can post this here. It might be of interest to other instructors (and their students).

Massad is going to be presenting MAG20, his 2 day lecture on Use of Force, What to do after a shooting, in Austin - Mar 8-9.

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switch wrote:I hope I can post this here. It might be of interest to other instructors (and their students).

Massad is going to be presenting MAG20, his 2 day lecture on Use of Force, What to do after a shooting, in Austin - Mar 8-9.

wow. I might attend that. I've already been through the OIS route so I'm not worried there. I just want to hear him speak.

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http://massadayoobgroup.com/mag-20-classroom/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is showing $400, KR's web site showing $450. What's another $50 ... for "bring your own for working lunch" and back-to-back 10 hour days ? :drool: ;-)
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Greybeard wrote:http://massadayoobgroup.com/mag-20-classroom/ is showing $400, KR's web site showing $450. What's another $50 ... for "bring your own for working lunch" and back-to-back 10 hour days ? :drool: ;-)
Wow, It sounds like such an inviting, comfortable environment. How could anybody turn THIS down… (Bring your own porta-potty, too?)
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Greybeard wrote:http://massadayoobgroup.com/mag-20-classroom/ is showing $400, KR's web site showing $450. What's another $50 ... for "bring your own for working lunch" and back-to-back 10 hour days ? :drool: ;-)

$400??? I'll pass. I could buy a new Glock for that price!
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I visited with him at the NRA convention. While I like a lot of what he says and promotes, I noticed he is not short on ego even a little. He didn't let me get away from his booth without an autographed picture that I have no interest in. Price seems quite high considering the accommodations.
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mojo84 wrote:I visited with him at the NRA convention. While I like a lot of what he says and promotes, I noticed he is not short on ego even a little. He didn't let me get away from his booth without an autographed picture that I have no interest in. Price seems quite high considering the accommodations.
He's just trying make a buck. He has already covered this subject ad nauseam.
You can probably hear the same thing from watching a video, reading one of his books or magazine articles.
But sometimes, like a concert or play, it's more entertaining to see it in person.
Maybe you can sell his autographed picture on e-Bay to pay for the class. :smilelol5:
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Giving credit where credit is due, he looks a lot better with the goatee than his old copstache.
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bizarrenormality wrote:Giving credit where credit is due, he looks a lot better with the goatee than his old copstache.
Even with giving credit where it is due, that's not saying much. :mrgreen:
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I saw a cd or tape of this guy years ago.. Went to the trouble of cheking him out.. Do it before going.

Gas bag and if has ever been a certified lawman other than reserve I couldnt find.

He only repeats what he has read somewher if you have been around long enough :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Just an FYI.... Wikipedia (you can consider Wikipedia as a reliable source or not) says this about Ayoob:
He has served as a part-time police officer in New Hampshire since 1972 and holds the rank of Captain in the Grantham, New Hampshire police department.[2]
I know it's not uncommon to have part-time police / fire folks up in that part of the world. They're not reserve, like we have in Texas (unpaid), they're exactly what it says: part-time.

As far as his position as Captain in the Granthan PD - maybe in the past, but not now:
Police Department Personnel

Chief Walter A. Madore, Sr.
Sergeant John Parsons
Officer Ryan C.Gamble
Officer Dakota Titorenko-Geary
Officer Robert A. Schwartz (P/T)
Officer Gordon V. Cunningham (P/T)
Officer Timothy T. Julian (P/T)

Secretary Judy DiPadova

*The Grantham Police Department does not have a dispatcher. We utilize the dispatching services of the Newport Police Department.*
So, what's that prove? Nuthin. But, if you read his Wiki and if everything is as represented, he seems to have the right stuff to talk about these subjects.
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He does give good advice and does good work. I don't think his ego completely offsets what good he does and says.
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o b juan wrote:He only repeats what he has read somewher if you have been around long enough :roll: :roll: :roll:
I think you mean he repeats what you read somewhere. Maybe even something he wrote. :mrgreen:

I attended a 90 minute presentation he gave a couple years ago. Mas definitely has an ego. I also think a lot of what he knows is more relevant in the Northeast than the South and I wouldn't pay $400 of my hard earned money to listen to him talk for 20 hours. BUT. I also wouldn't deny his influence on the field of justified self-defense over the past 30 years.

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I attended this course at RangeMaster in Memphis earlier this year.

I've been carrying for 18+ years, teaching for 3+ years.

I found a lot of very useful information in the 20 hours.

I took 40 pages of notes on my iPad.

It was worth it to me. Your mileage may vary.
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Who is Massad Ayoub and what/where are his/her credentials? Pictures?
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