30.06 @ Palmer Event Center?

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30.06 @ Palmer Event Center?

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My company is planning on volunteering at the HEB "Feast of Sharing" event at the Palmer Event Center the week of Thanksgiving. I haven't been there in many, many years and was wondering if it was posted with a 30.06. I would assume as a city facility that they would not be able to post it, but wanted to check and see if anyone had been there lately and seen any signs. I'll certainly volunteer if I can but a 30.06 is a deal-killer for me.

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I agree that the city should not be able to post a 30.06 notice at this facility. However, this is Austin. :biggrinjester:

http://www.palmereventscenter.com/new/P ... Center.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"....opening in June 2002, the Palmer Events Center is owned by the City of Austin and managed by the city’s Convention Center Department. ..."
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Since owned and operated by the city, even if it were posted, the sign would be invalid.
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RPB wrote:Since owned and operated by the city, even if it were posted, the sign would be invalid.
"Not Legally Enforcable" :P

We had a whole thread dedicated to this, remember?! :smilelol5:

It's a Valid Sign, and It's a Legal Sign, It's just not enforceable :P

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dicion wrote:
RPB wrote:Since owned and operated by the city, even if it were posted, the sign would be invalid.
"Not Legally Enforceable" :P

We had a whole thread dedicated to this, remember?! :smilelol5:

It's a Valid Sign, and It's a Legal Sign, It's just not enforceable :P
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Thanks for the response, folks!

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I'm happy to report that I saw no 30.06 signs or anything similar at Palmer Event Center when I was there last week.

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Was there for SXSW event and a seemingly correct 30.06 notice was on the doors. Understand that it's not enforceable due to the Austin City ownership. Just updating the thread. As I was entering the event, I searched this site from my phone to double check that it was city owned.. :rules:
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Another thread resurrection - 3.5 years old. :mrgreen:
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Yup. This site is pretty solid archive of cumulative knowledge. Not sure about others, but I find myself searching for info all the time about specifics. Just trying to be a good TexasCHLForum citizen and contribute to the knowledge base. :patriot:
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ralewis wrote:Yup. This site is pretty solid archive of cumulative knowledge. Not sure about others, but I find myself searching for info all the time about specifics. Just trying to be a good TexasCHLForum citizen and contribute to the knowledge base. :patriot:
:iagree: I was sincere in thanking you for the update.
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I was there last friday and didn't see any 30.06 signs on the main entrance doors.
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dicion wrote:
It's a Valid Sign, and It's a Legal Sign, It's just not enforceable :P
I prefer to say it a different way. It's quite enforceable. And it's very likely that a LEO that arrests under it will have no consequence under the concept of qualified immunity. That is, most "reasonable" people don't know that 30.06 isn't valid on a city owned property. I've spoken with officers that will enforce on it and I've spoken with those that won't, but I ask the question outside of being in that situation.

I prefer to say that it's not "prosecutable"....

Chas has some draft legislation that would make improper posting actionable (civil) by you and me, which might discourage cities that do it anyway.
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