Is Google ANTI-2nd Amendment?

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To many countries guns DO fall in to the "that same sort of crud".

And Google doesn't want to just be America's search engine, but the entire world.

I'll be honest... I'm all for supporting 2A rights... and also Texas CHL rights.

But I love me some google... I don't think I would switch even with their adwords policy.
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It looks like they are anti free speech also.
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Liberty wrote:It looks like they are anti free speech also.
So's Great Britain. There is no guarantee of free speech there either. They can censor the press whenever they like if they feel it's necessary.

Great Britain's also anti-handgun.

Does that mean we hate them?
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You can support your favorite charity with GoodSearch.

It uses Yahoo but donates 50% of their revenue to charity.
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matchstick wrote:
Liberty wrote:It looks like they are anti free speech also.
So's Great Britain. There is no guarantee of free speech there either. They can censor the press whenever they like if they feel it's necessary.

Great Britain's also anti-handgun.

Does that mean we hate them?
Well we all need to pick our own battles, everyone has to make their choices. I decided to boycott the San Antonio Riverwalk after going there a couple times every year for over 10 years. Maybe its easier because there are other places to go for a weekend trip.

I like Google services. They provide the free engine that powers my blog, the best read agrigator free, The best most innovative webmail. and oh yeah the absolute best search engine(which drives 80% of my traffic to my website) even though I advocate destroying extremist muslim terrorist, discuss guns occassionally, and even use the 3 letter word for donkey.
I don't think I've ever clicked on one of their ads and I don't subscribe to their ad services at all.

I think Google is a good deal They give me free stuff that I like a lot. They get to present me with some ads that I hardly even notice.

I was paying big bucks to stay at a Hotel, a member of the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce, to spend money and time at establishments that were also members. The San Antonio Chamber of Commerce actively fought (and won) against folks being able to protect themselves. Boycotting San Antonio isn't at all painful for me, so it was easy. Giving up Google would be more painful for me than them.
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Liberty wrote:It looks like they are anti free speech also.
"The government shall make no law....

Business can restrict speech. Google can pretty much do what they want with their resources, not that I am totally for restricing speech. I do not consider it censorship. I will limit what speech I deem inappropriate in areas under my control, as I am sure you would too.

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After a single email to Google and a couple of day's wait, Google sent me this:
Hello Tim,

Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delayed response, and thank you for your continued patience. I understand that you are concerned about the incorrect disapproval of your AdWords ad. I apologize for any frustration this may have caused you. However, please be assured that I have reviewed your account and confirmed that your ad is approved and running on Google.

Our AdWords Specialists review ads that run on Google to ensure that they comply with our advertising policies. I apologize if the prior disapproval of your ad was made in error. However, after reviewing your ad again, our Specialists have found that your ad meets all our Editorial Guidelines and advertising policies.

The Google advertising program is managed by a set of policies which we develop based on several factors, including user and customer experience and legal considerations. We review our policies regularly and make changes to keep them current and effective. Our goal is to have policies that are fair, consistent, and adaptable.

Please feel free to reply to this email if you require any further clarifications.

If you have additional questions, please visit our Help Center at https://adwords.google.com/support to find answers to many frequently asked questions. Or, try our Learning Center at http://www.google.com/adwords/learningcenter/ for self-paced lessons that cover the scope of AdWords.

We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising available.

Sincerely,

Aparna
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Just to clear things up, I had read their terms of use and made certain I was not violating them with the wording of my ad and the content of my sites. I believe the entire problem resulted from an over-zealous AdWords specialist taking it upon themselves to broaden the terms of the policy against advertising the sale of firearms.
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take it from an internet professional (if there is such a thing).

google is way whack. they do odd things for no real reason all the time.
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LedJedi wrote:...google is way whack. they do odd things for no real reason all the time.
Roger That!

I was so torqued when they initially pulled my ad that I spent half a day yanking their code from all my sites and subsidiaries. Then I started hunting for another ad revenue resource and found that pretty much all of them have similar policies, some even more restrictive than Google.

I was relieved when they reversed their decision, but then I had to go re-code for another hour to put their stuff back in.

I guess Google is the lesser of the evils right now, and I do understand that they have to watch out for liabilities, what with their deep pockets and short arms and all.

I don't know if my internet tirade about them had any effect on their decision to re-approve my ad, or if level heads just prevailed, but since they admitted that I was in compliance with their rules and they made a mistake, I'm happy to patch things up and keep doing business with them until I find a ad revenue resource that is more amenable to the gun ownership community.
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tfrazier wrote:I don't know if my internet tirade about them had any effect on their decision to re-approve my ad, or if level heads just prevailed, but since they admitted that I was in compliance with their rules and they made a mistake,
yep yep

i have a good buddy that makes his living on google ads. They're constantly jacking with him, pulling ads, he spends a few hours on the phone with the, they eventually reverse themselves. I've probably seen him do that like 10 times.

He does sell some pretty shady stuff imo (like cable filters and enlargement pills), but ironically they dont have issue with that. They've given him hassles about the more legitimate products he pushes.

Google = soon to be the microsoft of the internet.

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LedJedi wrote:google is way whack. they do odd things for no real reason all the time.
And yet, they are lightyears ahead of eBay/Paypal when it comes to reason, logic, and responding to the customers.

People are people. A person set this problem in motion, but another person fixed it. All is well.
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