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harrycallahan wrote: I was only speaking from the view point of effectively being able to deploy a given weapon within the close quarters such as a residence.
Okay. But...the real question is what weapon can you put effective fire that will stop the fight on the target during a high stress, possibly dark, confused situation. It isn't always about what maneuvers best, but what stops the fight the fastest. Handguns are easy to maneuver in close quarters. They are quick to deploy. But, they require a much higher degree of marksmanship and they will always take more rounds to stop the fight than a rifle or shotgun. It is much easier for someone to remove a handgun from your hands - especially if you don't have specialized training in retention techniques.

Evaluate the most difficult shot you will have to face in your home. Go to the range and pace it off and see how many shots you can place in the vital zone (center of mass) in a very short time-ten seconds will be a long gunfight. Try the same exercise with a shotgun and rifle. Count the center mass hits and divide by 3. That tells you how many hits you will likely make if you are an expert with a lot of luck, in a real situation. It could be less. Then remember that no weapon is a sure one shot stop.

This stuff just gives you a rough idea. Do the above exercise in the dark in close confines. Better yet, get that professional training. There is too much here to even outline a reasonable sampling of scenarios you might face. Use whatever weapon you like but be aware of what you are facing before it happens.
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harrycallahan wrote:I've seen several discussions that have covered said topic. In each case the myth that a rifle or shotgun was best were generally dispelled. Factors such as ammo load, range to target and area covered all need to be considered in this decision.
From any of those discussions, can you provide any evidence that any handgun round has anywhere near the effectiveness that a rifle or shotgun load of 00 or 000 or slug has? There is also ample medical evidence that the effectiveness of rifle rounds are far better than handguns. That is also why the military and police prefer firearms in the following order even for close quarters. Rifle-shotgun-handgun

We're mostly talking about effectiveness of the round now. What is the best weapon platform may always come down to ease of use in a specific environment for each user and could vary dependent upon different scenarios. In a one-on-one situation a hand gun might be the best option for some. However, the effectiveness of the various rounds is mostly settled.

I was only speaking from the view point of effectively being able to deploy a given weapon within the close quarters such as a residence.
That is a big difference and can be a very valid one depending upon the ability of the user. Use what you got and use it well.
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Sometimes, there's no accounting for taste. I don't shoot rifles or shotguns. Not because of any particular bias, I just like to shoot handguns, and that's all I have in my personal arsenal.

I hope I never learn how effective (or ineffective) I would be with a handgun in a real situation.

But if I'm ever in a real situation, I think I'd like one of my handguns. One of the .45's would be very comforting, but the full-size Sig P320 might actually be the most practical.
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[quote="C-dub"][quote="harrycallahan"][quote="C-dub"][quote="harrycallahan"]I've seen several discussions that have covered said topic. In each case the myth that a rifle or shotgun was best were generally dispelled. Factors such as ammo load, range to target and area covered all need to be considered in this decision.[/quote]
From any of those discussions, can you provide any evidence that any handgun round has anywhere near the effectiveness that a rifle or shotgun load of 00 or 000 or slug has? There is also ample medical evidence that the effectiveness of rifle rounds are far better than handguns. That is also why the military and police prefer firearms in the following order even for close quarters. Rifle-shotgun-handgun

We're mostly talking about effectiveness of the round now. What is the best weapon platform may always come down to ease of use in a specific environment for each user and could vary dependent upon different scenarios. In a one-on-one situation a hand gun might be the best option for some. However, the effectiveness of the various rounds is mostly settled.[/quote]


I was only speaking from the view point of effectively being able to deploy a given weapon within the close quarters such as a residence.[/quote]
That is a big difference and can be a very valid one depending upon the ability of the user. Use what you got and use it well.[/quote]
Well said.
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