SB11 & HB910 This week....

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LSUTiger wrote:So if you are CCing in a 30.07 place and your shirt rides up, have you committed a crime? You did not intentionally fail to conceal but are technically OCing.
You will only be openly carrying if the display of your handgun is intentional.

However, you might have to fight that one in court.
Keep calm and carry.

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jerry_r60 wrote:I understood that these checkpoints do occur in Texas i.e. outside of Forth Worth. That the justification was that people were not randomly pulled over but everyone passing the checkpoint. I'll accept I am misinformed if that's the case. I either read old info or thought I was reading something on Texas and was not.
From what I understand the so-called "no refusal weekends" in Austin involve having a judge on standby who issues a warrant for each person to be tested. I could be wrong, though.
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mr1337 wrote:
LSUTiger wrote:So if you are CCing in a 30.07 place and your shirt rides up, have you committed a crime? You did not intentionally fail to conceal but are technically OCing.
You will only be openly carrying if the display of your handgun is intentional.

However, you might have to fight that one in court.
I wouldn't fight it, I'd pay the $200 fine and make sure I did a better job of concealing next time.
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v7a wrote:
jerry_r60 wrote:I understood that these checkpoints do occur in Texas i.e. outside of Forth Worth. That the justification was that people were not randomly pulled over but everyone passing the checkpoint. I'll accept I am misinformed if that's the case. I either read old info or thought I was reading something on Texas and was not.
From what I understand the so-called "no refusal weekends" in Austin involve having a judge on standby who issues a warrant for each person to be tested. I could be wrong, though.
Those are not checkpoints though.

They are police pulling over cars with reasonable suspicion. If the person refuses a field sobriety test or breathalyzer, they speed dial their judge to get a warrant to draw blood.

However, the most important thing is they must have reasonable suspicion to pull the car over.
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jmra wrote:
mr1337 wrote:
LSUTiger wrote:So if you are CCing in a 30.07 place and your shirt rides up, have you committed a crime? You did not intentionally fail to conceal but are technically OCing.
You will only be openly carrying if the display of your handgun is intentional.

However, you might have to fight that one in court.
I wouldn't fight it, I'd pay the $200 fine and make sure I did a better job of concealing next time.
Probably cheaper that way, too.
Keep calm and carry.

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Talk about intellectually dishonest rhetoric.

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mojo84 wrote:Talk about intellectually dishonest rhetoric.

This is the profile picture of the Mom Demand Action twitter page.

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This is from the Mothers Demand Air Conditioning page...
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JCole wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Talk about intellectually dishonest rhetoric.

This is the profile picture of the Mom Demand Action twitter page.

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This is from the Mothers Demand Air Conditioning page...

OOPS!!!!!! :oops:

Thanks for catching it.
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Well that didn't take long......http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/o ... r-shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Aggie_engr wrote:
mojo84 wrote:PTSD, stress, hormones and alcohol. :roll:
MDA be like -
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes.....
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
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Tracker wrote:Well that didn't take long......http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/o ... r-shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I just wonder how many belt or shoulder holsters the LEO in Waco inventoried yesterday.

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Tracker wrote:A Pre-frontal cortex isn't fully developed until 25 psychologists??? I wonder if she knows you can get as student pilot's license at age 16? Or that you could be sent to war at 18?
http://concealedcampus.org/common-arguments/#55" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is no scientific evidence that the brain function/decision making ability of a 21-year-old is substantially or even measurably different from that of a 25-year-old; however, there is a good deal of scientific evidence to the contrary. When scientists say that the human brain does not fully mature until the age of 25, the emphasis is on the word ‘fully.’ The *vast* majority of brain development is completed by age 20. The remaining development is, in essence, finishing touches. Saying that the brain of a 21-year-old is not fully developed is like saying that a construction crew hasn’t finished building a house, simply because they still haven’t put the covers on the light switches—the statement is technically true but highly misleading.

Jay N. Giedd*, M.D., writes, “Late maturation of the prefrontal cortex, which is essential in judgment, decision making and impulse control, has prominently entered discourse affecting the social, legislative, judicial, parenting and educational realms. Despite the temptation to trade the complexity and ambiguity of human behavior for the clarity and aesthetic beauty of colorful brain images, we must be careful not to over-interpret the neuroimaging findings as they relate to public policy.”

*Jay N. Giedd, M.D., one of the pioneers in the field of neuroimaging, is a practicing child and adolescent psychiatrist and chief of brain imaging at the Child Psychiatry Branch of the National Institute of Mental Health. In an ongoing longitudinal study of more than 2000 people, Dr. Giedd combined neuroimaging, genetics, and psychological testing to explore the path and influences on the developing brain in health and illness. (http://www.dana.org/Cerebrum/2009/The_T ... ake_Risks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
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matefrio wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
matefrio wrote:http://www.statesman.com/news/news/crim ... -de/nZ33P/

According to the Austin police affidavit, Alexander Scott Ervin, 20, attacked his father, 58-year-old Ray Scott Ervin, with a metal pipe wrench and a 3- to 4-inch folding knife at their home in West Austin

Good work!!!!

Could she have misrespresented under oath?

She was walking a line with her testimony. It's why I knew something was going on\more to the story. Someone should call her on it. Hopefully they'll read this.

This woman's testimony is eating at me and the more I think about it the angrier I get. Not only did she misrepresent under oath, she is exploiting a personal tragedy of her son killing her husband.

As it turns out, it had nothing to do with guns and much to do with how she helped or didn't help her son deal with his very serious severe mental illness. It's obvious she was much more culpable than any lack of gun laws, open carry or campus carry. She should be complete ashamed for her comments today.

I hope the Senators on the committee are made aware of the truth just for principle.
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Somebody above said they removed Dutton so 910 would pass in the Senate. Are you telling me that with Dutton, it wouldn't have passed? I'm highly skeptical that the Senate would have thrown out the whole thing because of that.
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mojo84 wrote:
matefrio wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
matefrio wrote:http://www.statesman.com/news/news/crim ... -de/nZ33P/

According to the Austin police affidavit, Alexander Scott Ervin, 20, attacked his father, 58-year-old Ray Scott Ervin, with a metal pipe wrench and a 3- to 4-inch folding knife at their home in West Austin

Good work!!!!

Could she have misrespresented under oath?

She was walking a line with her testimony. It's why I knew something was going on\more to the story. Someone should call her on it. Hopefully they'll read this.

This woman's testimony is eating at me and the more I think about it the angrier I get. Not only did she misrepresent under oath, she is exploiting a personal tragedy of her son killing her husband.

As it turns out, it had nothing to do with guns and much to do with how she helped or didn't help her son deal with his very serious severe mental illness. It's obvious she was much more culpable than any lack of gun laws, open carry or campus carry. She should be complete ashamed for her comments today.

I hope the Senators on the committee are made aware of the truth just for principle.
I think the most important lesson is that a crazed killer will still kill regardless of the tool available.
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