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For some reason I don't feel bad for low class gun banning scum being shafted. In fact I get just a little bit of joy from hearing about it.Right2Carry wrote:irements of a 30.06 sign are spelled out in detail. IMHO if a customer gets anything less then the guy is dishonest and a thief. When someone doesn't get what they pay for it amounts to stealing.
The guy might be doing CHLers a favor, but he is doing his customers a disservice.
Brilliant!ewhite wrote:I talked to a guy who prints these signs for people and he intentionally makes the signs the wrong size.
Liberty wrote:For some reason I don't feel bad for low class gun banning scum being shafted. In fact I get just a little bit of joy from hearing about it.Right2Carry wrote:irements of a 30.06 sign are spelled out in detail. IMHO if a customer gets anything less then the guy is dishonest and a thief. When someone doesn't get what they pay for it amounts to stealing.
The guy might be doing CHLers a favor, but he is doing his customers a disservice.
So, if you found bad cables, bad battery, etc., you wouldn't mention it to your customer who asked for his started to be changed? He may not know those things are bad.Bunkins wrote:I look at it this way, and I'll use my line of work for an example.. A customer walks in, tells me to change a starter, nothing else.. I change the starter, doesnt matter if I found bad cables, a bad battery, I change the starter, nothing more nothing less. If the starter doesn't fix the problem, dont blame me, I did what you asked me to do. Now if they tell me the starter isn't working, check it out, then I'm obligated to find the cause as to why the starter isnt working.
BUT, on the flip side, if a customer walks in, and asks me to make sure their equipment is ready for the winter, or summer, I know what that involves, and thats the service I provide.. If I leave something out with the intension of getting a repeat customer because I left something out that I know will cause the equipment to fail, then thats dishonest.
If someone came in, told me to make a sign with no instructions, I dont have enough info to do the job. That sign could be 1X2, or it could be 50X60. The guy knows what size the sign should be, therefore he should make it the way he knows how. Unless told otherwise.
In this situation, I feel it's very dishonest. Funny? Yeah it's funny.. But the guy making the signs is knowingly making a sign thats not legal, and he's doing it for personal gain ( money for making a illegal sign, as well as making a sign that he knows will not stop a CHL holder from going into that business ), it is dishonest, it doesn't matter how you look at it.. I know where you guys that see nothing wrong with it are coming from, but from a business stand point it's not right.. The correct way to handle this, is for him to refuse to make the sign and give his reason's why.
That sounds fair. If they provide specifications for a sign that meets the 30.06(c)(3)(B) requirements, then he will give them what they request.ewhite wrote:That is what I thought, I was just curious. At least according to him, if places order signs from him, unless they specify the exact deminsions, text size, wording, and all according to what the law states, they will always be non compliant...
kitty wrote:So, if you found bad cables, bad battery, etc., you wouldn't mention it to your customer who asked for his started to be changed? He may not know those things are bad.Bunkins wrote:I look at it this way, and I'll use my line of work for an example.. A customer walks in, tells me to change a starter, nothing else.. I change the starter, doesnt matter if I found bad cables, a bad battery, I change the starter, nothing more nothing less. If the starter doesn't fix the problem, dont blame me, I did what you asked me to do. Now if they tell me the starter isn't working, check it out, then I'm obligated to find the cause as to why the starter isnt working.
BUT, on the flip side, if a customer walks in, and asks me to make sure their equipment is ready for the winter, or summer, I know what that involves, and thats the service I provide.. If I leave something out with the intension of getting a repeat customer because I left something out that I know will cause the equipment to fail, then thats dishonest.
If someone came in, told me to make a sign with no instructions, I dont have enough info to do the job. That sign could be 1X2, or it could be 50X60. The guy knows what size the sign should be, therefore he should make it the way he knows how. Unless told otherwise.
In this situation, I feel it's very dishonest. Funny? Yeah it's funny.. But the guy making the signs is knowingly making a sign thats not legal, and he's doing it for personal gain ( money for making a illegal sign, as well as making a sign that he knows will not stop a CHL holder from going into that business ), it is dishonest, it doesn't matter how you look at it.. I know where you guys that see nothing wrong with it are coming from, but from a business stand point it's not right.. The correct way to handle this, is for him to refuse to make the sign and give his reason's why.
This thread is really getting to be extremely disappointing.
OTOH, you did say you think they guy is being dishonest. I'm just a little confused with some of the logic here.
Lots of scum follow the letter of the law. Some even specialize in the law. I perceive those who make active decisions to disarm me as scum or worse. I suppose there are those whom are coerced into posting the signs and they may be just gutless cowards. I refuse to do business with such creatures and take much delight in calling them names. Your millage may vary.Right2Carry wrote: What makes these people Scum? Just because they are following the law that your legislatures put into place they are scum? I might not agree with the banning of guns in certain places, but I hardly think those people are scum for exercising their right under our current laws.
