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marksiwel wrote:

pdubyoo wrote:

Purplehood wrote:

dewayneward wrote:

Government does not need religion, and religion does not need Government.

that is not what our founding fathers thought. If need be, I can get all of the quotes for this. I would recommend getting literature/videos from a group called wallbuilders. they have done a good job collecting this information. You may be surprised that our country WAS founded on Christian values and that religion WAS suppose to be in government. I know that most folks nowadays dont know that (thank you media and the dumbing down of our education system) and even our own president, who went to college for constitutional law thinks that separation of church and state is in the constitution, but history will prove you wrong.

And I can collect just as much reflecting the exact opposite. Choose your founding fathers and run with it...

Well...My founding father can beat-up your founding father!

Basically, what some people dont want to admit, is that some founding fathers are more important than others.

dewayneward wrote:

And I can collect just as much reflecting the exact opposite. Choose your founding fathers and run with it...

I have read what I believe to be all of the "counter" statements. It isnt simply a "pick your founding father" type argument. 90% of the founding fathers were committed Christians and expressed clearly that the foundation of this country will be on Christianity (and we could argue what that means). I am not looking to pick a fight here, just laying out the facts. Unfortunately, the majority of the claims that say that the country wasnt founded on christian values (and when I say this, I am saying Christianity as found in the old and new testament) will come from Thomas Jefferson and a few other strained examples (usually taken out of context).

If you still believe that the country was not founded on Christian values, I would recommend reading some literature from the wallbuilders organization (http://www.wallbuilders.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) as it may convince your otherwise. Then again, I have learned that mental real estate is hard to give up.

I'll let y'all have the last word on this.

dewayneward wrote:

Government does not need religion, and religion does not need Government.

that is not what our founding fathers thought. If need be, I can get all of the quotes for this. I would recommend getting literature/videos from a group called wallbuilders. they have done a good job collecting this information. You may be surprised that our country WAS founded on Christian values and that religion WAS suppose to be in government. I know that most folks nowadays dont know that (thank you media and the dumbing down of our education system) and even our own president, who went to college for constitutional law thinks that separation of church and state is in the constitution, but history will prove you wrong.

frazzled wrote:

Purplehood wrote:
I believe that anything associated with the government that serves ALL the people of this country should not display any religious icons. Government does not need religion, and religion does not need Government.

Oh my, our favorite trooper(zing ) is right yet again.