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Violent Crimes Bureau ?
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Violent Crimes Bureau ?
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Alcohol, Tobacco , Firearms. Who's Bringing the Chips?
No Guns. No Freedom. Know Guns. Know Freedom.
Alcohol, Tobacco , Firearms. Who's Bringing the Chips?
No Guns. No Freedom. Know Guns. Know Freedom.
Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
Bigger Govt>agency too big to control, grows 

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Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
Truth in advertising.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation provides Investigations.
The Violent Crimes Bureau provides violent crimes (such as those committed with Fast and Furious weapons). I won't even go into some of their other efforts.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation provides Investigations.
The Violent Crimes Bureau provides violent crimes (such as those committed with Fast and Furious weapons). I won't even go into some of their other efforts.
How do you explain a dog named Sauer without first telling the story of a Puppy named Sig?
R.I.P. Sig, 08/21/2019 - 11/18/2019
R.I.P. Sig, 08/21/2019 - 11/18/2019
Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
Sounds like they are only trying to justify their miserable (for us) existence... 

Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
Three and a half years into his term, we finally get something true from Obama's executive branch.G.A. Heath wrote:Truth in advertising.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation provides Investigations.
The Violent Crimes Bureau provides violent crimes (such as those committed with Fast and Furious weapons). I won't even go into some of their other efforts.
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Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
why do we need this?
they dont do anything with alchol or tabbaco.
Should this not be handed over to Homeland and the former atf done away with?
they dont do anything with alchol or tabbaco.
Should this not be handed over to Homeland and the former atf done away with?
Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
IIRC, they were formed to tax alcohol and tobacco; the taxation job should be given to the IRS (the Treasury Dept/Secret Service is a division is already weaponized too) and the BATF disbanded.cheezit wrote:why do we need this?
they don't do anything with alcohol or tobacco.
Should this not be handed over to Homeland and the former atf done away with?
They are probably scared someone remembered that they were formed to tax tobacco and alcohol (those tax stamps) and want to justify their existence by pretending they are *supposed to be* police over more areas than checking tax stamps on alcohol bottles and cigarette packages. If it works, the road and bridge Dept could change names to road bridge and airplane runway dept and control all flights ... Self-Name-Changes by ones own Dept do not/should not grant additional authority than what Congress originally authorized as the purpose of the agency ..
I'm no lawyer
"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
Re: Violent Crimes Bureau ?
At least half the federal agencies would be done away with by a president who respected the constitution even a little.cheezit wrote:why do we need this?
they dont do anything with alchol or tabbaco.
Should this not be handed over to Homeland and the former atf done away with?
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