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Should people wit bipolar be allowed to carry or should it depend on the person

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Joetb9552
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Re: Bipolar

Post by Joetb9552 »

Btw I do own a Smith and wesson m&p 40c. Now another question I'm allow to buy a pistol but I'm not allowed to conceal hmm. What's wrong with this picture? Now this is all hypothetical what is keeping me a person with bipolar disorder from doing something stupid I could if I wanted. Well no need to answer I'll tell you it's because I'm a responsible adult who knows I need my meds. I know right from wrong. So instead of saying yea you can buy a pistol but you can't conceal let's compromise. When someone with bipolar wants to get a pistol they have to go through an extensive psych eval. At that point they are also given the choice if they want to get their chl but there would be certain things themed have to do to keep it. Proof of seeing a psychiatrist every three months at any point the psychiatrist can inform the authorities to pull the chl.if the person is willing to go through all that crap why not do it. Being someone diagnosed I can honestly say I'd be open to that. Please give me feed back
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Re: Bipolar

Post by Unicorn Rancher »

The law has a provision for you to qualify for a CHL if you get a certificate from a psychiatrist that your condition is in remission and unlikely to develop in the future.

It seems your effort would be better spent convincing your doc to write that letter than arguing on the internet, but it's your life. Best wishes either way.
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Re: Bipolar

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OK, all you have done is come here and complained and tried to convince people here that you are stable with your meds. That may be. However, it doesn't do any good to try and convince us. The law currently is that you can't get a CHL as you have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder unless you can get a psychiatrist to write a letter that you are in remission.

Since you don't want to seem to do that, what you should be doing is looking for a member of the legislature to convince to sponsor a bill modifying the law and removing the restriction. That is where you can gain traction, not by trying over and over to convince those here.
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Re: Bipolar

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I would recommend that you not own a gun. During the depression side of the bi-polar experience, you could be at risk of taking your own life with a gun nearby.

You are young and at the moment and appear to have your disease well under control. That may not always be the case as you age. A gun bought in your youth, may end up being a problem for you later in life.

I would love to be a pilot and fly an airplane. However, I realize my personality is not that of a successful pilot. I would end up killing myself and probably a loved one.

As Dirty Harry once said, "you have to know your limitations".

There are better hobbies and sports for you to get into.
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Re: Bipolar

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philip964 wrote:There are better hobbies and sports for you to get into.
With due respect, owning a gun is more than a "hobby" or a "sport".
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Re: Bipolar

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Joetb9552 wrote:Btw I do own a Smith and wesson m&p 40c. Now another question I'm allow to buy a pistol but I'm not allowed to conceal hmm. What's wrong with this picture? Now this is all hypothetical what is keeping me a person with bipolar disorder from doing something stupid I could if I wanted. Well no need to answer I'll tell you it's because I'm a responsible adult who knows I need my meds.
Joe,
I'm not sure you can legally own a gun. I am sure you can get one, but I'm not sure it's legal:
Tex. Gov’t Code §411.172:
Texas law prohibits the ownership and carrying of guns by those with certain psychiatric diagnoses, including schizophrenia, delusional disorder, bipolar disorder, chronic dementia, dissociative identity disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, and antisocial personality disorder. In addition, gun restrictions are in place for five years following an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization, inpatient or residential treatment for substance abuse, diagnosis of alcohol or drug dependence, or diagnosis of mental illness by a licensed physician.
You cite the hypocrisy if you could own it, that you wouldn't be allowed to conceal it... It gets even more fun. You can move to Michigan and carry all you want to (assuming you can legally own a gun). If you conceal, then you can get arrested because you concealed without having a CHL. Ain't America consistent?

I feel for your situation. You sound like you're very serious about keeping up with your health. If everyone was like you, we likely wouldn't need the laws that we have on the books.
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Re: Bipolar

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Unicorn Rancher wrote:The law has a provision for you to qualify for a CHL if you get a certificate from a psychiatrist that your condition is in remission and unlikely to develop in the future.
It seems your effort would be better spent convincing your doc to write that letter than arguing on the internet, but it's your life. Best wishes either way.
I'm no doctor, but remission implies no medication. Remission is not the same as effectively treated. To be in remission, he'd need to be off his meds. Misdiagnoses do occur, but tread carefully...
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Re: Bipolar

Post by Joetb9552 »

Joe,
I'm not sure you can legally own a gun. I am sure you can get one, but I'm not sure it's legal:
Tex. Gov’t Code §411.172:
Texas law prohibits the ownership and carrying of guns by those with certain psychiatric diagnoses, including schizophrenia, delusional disorder, bipolar disorder, chronic dementia, dissociative identity disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, and antisocial personality disorder. In addition, gun restrictions are in place for five years following an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization, inpatient or residential treatment for substance abuse, diagnosis of alcohol or drug dependence, or diagnosis of mental illness by a licensed physician.
You cite the hypocrisy if you could own it, that you wouldn't be allowed to conceal it... It gets even more fun. You can move to Michigan and carry all you want to (assuming you can legally own a gun). If you conceal, then you can get arrested because you concealed without having a CHL. Ain't America consistent?

I feel for your situation. You sound like you're very serious about keeping up with your health. If everyone was like you, we likely wouldn't need the laws that we have on the books.[/quote]

This keeps getting more funny as we discuss this. One state over from Michigan in Wisconsin is where I purchased my pistol. So here's I think a valid question does any one think its right that someone in my shoes should not be allowed to defend themself against someone breaking in to there house?
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Re: Bipolar

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Joetb9552 wrote:Joe,
I'm not sure you can legally own a gun. I am sure you can get one, but I'm not sure it's legal:
Tex. Gov’t Code §411.172:

Texas law prohibits the ownership and carrying of guns by those with certain psychiatric diagnoses, including schizophrenia, delusional disorder, bipolar disorder, chronic dementia, dissociative identity disorder, intermittent explosive disorder, and antisocial personality disorder. In addition, gun restrictions are in place for five years following an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization, inpatient or residential treatment for substance abuse, diagnosis of alcohol or drug dependence, or diagnosis of mental illness by a licensed physician.

You cite the hypocrisy if you could own it, that you wouldn't be allowed to conceal it... It gets even more fun. You can move to Michigan and carry all you want to (assuming you can legally own a gun). If you conceal, then you can get arrested because you concealed without having a CHL. Ain't America consistent?

I feel for your situation. You sound like you're very serious about keeping up with your health. If everyone was like you, we likely wouldn't need the laws that we have on the books.

This keeps getting more funny as we discuss this. One state over from Michigan in Wisconsin is where I purchased my pistol. So here's I think a valid question does any one think its right that someone in my shoes should not be allowed to defend themself against someone breaking in to there house?
I believe you are looking for answers in the wrong places. Even if people on this forum were to agree with you it changes nothing. If you want to change your current legal status as it pertains to firearm ownership you need to be talking to medical professionals who can possibly make that a reality.
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