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Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:51 pm
by artx
Charles L. Cotton wrote:artx wrote:I noticed the status now says:
H Scheduled for formal meeting on . . . 05/13/2011
What is a 'formal meeting' ?
The committee met this morning and it was voted favorably. Now to Calendars.
Chas.
thanks - I'd always seen the "public hearing" status before! I'll fax Straus.
I did receive this message from the speaker today:
Dear (artx):
Thank you for writing to express your support for legislation that would allow Texans to carry concealed handguns on college campuses. I value the opinions of all Texans, especially concerning important issues of individual liberty.
Several members of the 82nd Legislature have filed bills on this topic, including House Bill 750 by Representative Joe Driver and Senate Bill 354 by Senator Jeff Wentworth. HB 750 was passed by the House Committee on Homeland Security and Public Safety and then sent to the House Committee on Calendars to be considered for debate by the full House. The deadline for House bills to be scheduled for debate on the floor was May 10, 2011. HB 750 was not placed on a calendar prior to that deadline, so it will not receive further consideration during the 82nd Legislative Session.
SB 354 was included as an amendment to another bill, SB 1581 by Senator Steve Ogden, which passed the Senate on May 9, 2011. The bill has been referred to the House Committee on Appropriations and is scheduled for consideration in a formal meeting on May 13, 2011.
As Speaker, it is my duty to preside over the other 149 members of the Texas House of Representatives so I rarely vote and do not personally carry legislation; however, I will keep your comments in mind should SB 1581 come before the full House.
I encourage you to track the progress of SB 1581 by visiting Texas Legislature Online at
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or by calling the Texas Bill Status Hotline at 1-877-824-7038. The website includes My TLO, a helpful tool that allows you to track the status of particular bills by creating custom watch lists. You can also receive alerts when significant actions are taken on the bills in which you have an interest.
Again, thank you for writing. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance on this or any other issue.
Sincerely,
Joe Straus
Speaker
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:23 pm
by Ameer
As Speaker, it is my duty to preside over the other 149 members of the Texas House of Representatives so I rarely vote and do not personally carry legislation; however, I will keep your comments in mind should SB 1581 come before the full House.
Does that mean he maintains neutrality (except for tie-breaker votes) and doesn't express his opinion to the committee chairs he appointed? Even in private?
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:49 pm
by RPB
Ameer wrote:As Speaker, it is my duty to preside over the other 149 members of the Texas House of Representatives so I rarely vote and do not personally carry legislation; however, I will keep your comments in mind should SB 1581 come before the full House.
Does that mean he maintains neutrality (except for tie-breaker votes) and doesn't express his opinion to the committee chairs he appointed? Even in private?
Since Jimmie Don Aycock said "I fully support the Second Amendment,
but" and then voted against campus carry...
I'm hoping that "
however," has significance.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:19 pm
by Ameer
Charles L. Cotton wrote:artx wrote:I noticed the status now says:
H Scheduled for formal meeting on . . . 05/13/2011
What is a 'formal meeting' ?
The committee met this morning and it was voted favorably. Now to Calendars.
Do they have to schedule it or can Calendars kill Senate Bills like they did with House Bill 750?
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:27 pm
by warhorse10_9
Ameer wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:artx wrote:I noticed the status now says:
H Scheduled for formal meeting on . . . 05/13/2011
What is a 'formal meeting' ?
The committee met this morning and it was voted favorably. Now to Calendars.
Do they have to schedule it or can Calendars kill Senate Bills like they did with House Bill 750?
Pretty sure calendars can't kill it, other parts of the bill are very important for funding of texas colleges.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:32 pm
by Ameer
Thanks but I was wondering if they could do it in general not if they would do it to this bill.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:39 pm
by Liberty
warhorse10_9 wrote:
Pretty sure calendars can't kill it, other parts of the bill are very important for funding of texas colleges.
Would be a good thing if the whole thing failed. These schools have been very antigun and maybe if they were kept busier trying to keep funded they wouldn't have as much time to be lobbying against the RKBA. They have clearly defined themselves as an ignarant enemy that needs to be stopped actions should have consequences.
In this bill we are in a win-win situation unless they do some tricky ammendment play.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:13 pm
by Jasonw560
Liberty wrote:warhorse10_9 wrote:
Pretty sure calendars can't kill it, other parts of the bill are very important for funding of texas colleges.
Would be a good thing if the whole thing failed. These schools have been very antigun and maybe if they were kept busier trying to keep funded they wouldn't have as much time to be lobbying against the RKBA. They have clearly defined themselves as an ignarant enemy that needs to be stopped actions should have consequences.
In this bill we are in a win-win situation unless they do some tricky ammendment play.
I'd rather it pass, so we can see no incidents in these next two years, and then, in 2013, come back and say, "see, the sky is NOT falling, no crime/suicide rate increases, no drunken shooting binges, and the streets are still asphalt colored...not red with blood. Your "culture of the classroom" is in tact, just like in the other 5 states. So, why don't we allow these same people to exercise their rights on private and independent colleges now? It's not negative at all."
Having it fail is a step backwards.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:53 pm
by warhorse10_9
Jasonw560 wrote:no drunken shooting binges
LOL, I had never heard it put that way. "Agghhhh I'm drunk I need to go shooting." lol
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:42 pm
by Jasonw560
warhorse10_9 wrote:Jasonw560 wrote:no drunken shooting binges
LOL, I had never heard it put that way. "Agghhhh I'm drunk I need to go shooting." lol
just calling absurdity by its true name.
At least that's what the anti's could say will happen.
I hope I just didn't give John Woods another term....
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:06 am
by Originalist
According to Rep Garza's office a point of order can be made and the amendment stripped if it is subsituted for the HB. I hope this in not the case and have called at least 2 times telling him to oppose any attempt to strip the amendment and plan to call again Monday morning. I would call this weekend but no answer.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:00 am
by artx
AFCop wrote:According to Rep Garza's office a point of order can be made and the amendment stripped if it is subsituted for the HB. I hope this in not the case and have called at least 2 times telling him to oppose any attempt to strip the amendment and plan to call again Monday morning. I would call this weekend but no answer.
I think this is true were the house bill the one brought up on the house floor, but since the house bill is effectively dead (didn't pass originating chamber in time)and the senate bill has passed the senate, committee and in calendars, I don't think a substitution is necessary - the senate bill can stand on its own.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:38 pm
by Jasonw560
There's such a majority in the House, I think a POO
will fall short.
(that means Point Of Order)
We just need to keep prodding.
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:10 pm
by hirundo82
Jasonw560 wrote:There's such a majority in the House, I think a POO
will fall short.
(that means Point Of Order)
We just need to keep prodding.
I don't think a point of order is decided by a vote, but rather by the chair (in this case Speaker Straus).
Re: HB 3639 - SB 1581
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:50 pm
by RPB
hirundo82 wrote:Jasonw560 wrote:There's such a majority in the House, I think a POO
will fall short.
(that means Point Of Order)
We just need to keep prodding.
I don't think a point of order is decided by a vote, but rather by the chair (in this case Speaker Straus).
I"m guessing that's why John Woods' website emphasizes faxing/calling/e-mailing Speaker Straus.
