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Papa_Tiger wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

AF-Odin wrote:Newspaper article this morning about SB-16 stating that this bill will "strip" millions of dollars from state education funding because of reducing LTC fees. Hmmmm, thought I paid a substantial amount in taxes that fund education/ Why should a DPS licensing program fund other state agencies? LTC fee should pay for DPS to conduct a background check and process the plastic, nothing more. The antis will grasp at any straw.

Can you provide a link to the article? That sounds like a bunch of bull. More fake news.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/state-- ... 1nyIk3SzJ/
From the ever unbiased Austin American Statesman -

The bill would cost the state $22 million in lost revenue over the next two years, according to the Legislative Budget Board.

State Rep. Nicole Collier, D-Fort Worth who voted against the bill, said that the money should be spent on more pressing matters like schools or child welfare. She also said that guns are being given special treatment.

Thanks. Once they get their greedy claws on our money they never want to let it go. They always have some way to repurpose our money.

The LTC licensing fees were never supposed to be a profiteering system. But that doesn't keep the tax and spend Liberals from trying to get their hands on it.

Passed the House today 129-17! Now back to the Senate for concurrence and on to the Governor's desk!

Papa_Tiger wrote:Passed the House today 129-17! Now back to the Senate for concurrence and on to the Governor's desk!

That means that there were several Democrats who voted for it. I will be interested to see who they were.

FROM TLO


SB 16
, as amended, was passed to third reading by (Record 607): 111 Yeas,
30 Nays, 2 Present, not voting.
Yeas — Allen; Alvarado; Anderson, R.; Ashby; Bailes; Biedermann; Bohac;
Bonnen, D.; Bonnen, G.; Burkett; Burns; Burrows; Button; Cain; Canales;
Capriglione; Clardy; Cook; Cortez; Cosper; Craddick; Cyrier; Dale; Darby;
Davis, S.; Dean; Elkins; Faircloth; Fallon; Farrar; Flynn; Frank; Frullo; Geren;
Goldman; Gooden; Guerra; Guillen; Gutierrez; Hefner; Herrero; Holland;
Huberty; Hunter; Isaac; Johnson, J.; Keough; King, K.; King, P.; King, T.; Klick;
Koop; Krause; Kuempel; Lambert; Landgraf; Lang; Larson; Laubenberg; Leach;
Lozano; Lucio; Martinez; Metcalf; Meyer; Morrison; Mun ̃oz; Murphy; Murr;
Nevarez; Oliveira; Oliverson; Paddie; Parker; Paul; Perez; Phelan; Phillips;
Pickett; Price; Raney; Raymond; Rinaldi; Roberts; Rodriguez, E.; Sanford;
Schaefer; Schofield; Schubert; Shaheen; Sheffield; Shine; Simmons; Smithee;
2224
85th LEGISLATURE — REGULAR SESSION
Springer; Stephenson; Stickland; Stucky; Swanson; Thierry; Thompson, E.;
Thompson, S.; Tinderholt; VanDeaver; Villalba; White; Wilson; Workman; Wray;
Zedler; Zerwas.

Nays — Alonzo; Anchia; Are ́valo; Bernal; Blanco; Coleman; Collier; Davis,
Y.; Deshotel; Dutton; Gervin-Hawkins; Giddings; Hernandez; Hinojosa; Howard;
Israel; Johnson, E.; Minjarez; Moody; Neave; Ortega; Reynolds; Rodriguez, J.;
Romero; Rose; Turner; Uresti; Vo; Walle; Wu.
Present, not voting — Mr. Speaker; Kacal(C).
Absent, Excused — Anderson, C.; Bell; Miller.
Absent, Excused, Committee Meeting — Gonzales; Longoria.
Absent — Dukes; Gonza ́lez.


from TLO

powerboatr wrote:FROM TLO


SB 16
, as amended, was passed to third reading by (Record 607): 111 Yeas,
30 Nays, 2 Present, not voting.
Yeas — Allen; Alvarado; Anderson, R.; Ashby; Bailes; Biedermann; Bohac;
Bonnen, D.; Bonnen, G.; Burkett; Burns; Burrows; Button; Cain; Canales;
Capriglione; Clardy; Cook; Cortez; Cosper; Craddick; Cyrier; Dale; Darby;
Davis, S.; Dean; Elkins; Faircloth; Fallon; Farrar; Flynn; Frank; Frullo; Geren;
Goldman; Gooden; Guerra; Guillen; Gutierrez; Hefner; Herrero; Holland;
Huberty; Hunter; Isaac; Johnson, J.; Keough; King, K.; King, P.; King, T.; Klick;
Koop; Krause; Kuempel; Lambert; Landgraf; Lang; Larson; Laubenberg; Leach;
Lozano; Lucio; Martinez; Metcalf; Meyer; Morrison; Mun ̃oz; Murphy; Murr;
Nevarez; Oliveira; Oliverson; Paddie; Parker; Paul; Perez; Phelan; Phillips;
Pickett; Price; Raney; Raymond; Rinaldi; Roberts; Rodriguez, E.; Sanford;
Schaefer; Schofield; Schubert; Shaheen; Sheffield; Shine; Simmons; Smithee;
2224
85th LEGISLATURE — REGULAR SESSION
Springer; Stephenson; Stickland; Stucky; Swanson; Thierry; Thompson, E.;
Thompson, S.; Tinderholt; VanDeaver; Villalba; White; Wilson; Workman; Wray;
Zedler; Zerwas.

Nays — Alonzo; Anchia; Are ́valo; Bernal; Blanco; Coleman; Collier; Davis,
Y.; Deshotel; Dutton; Gervin-Hawkins; Giddings; Hernandez; Hinojosa; Howard;
Israel; Johnson, E.; Minjarez; Moody; Neave; Ortega; Reynolds; Rodriguez, J.;
Romero; Rose; Turner; Uresti; Vo; Walle; Wu.
Present, not voting — Mr. Speaker; Kacal(C).
Absent, Excused — Anderson, C.; Bell; Miller.
Absent, Excused, Committee Meeting — Gonzales; Longoria.
Absent — Dukes; Gonza ́lez.


from TLO

Dog gone if my "rep" (even though he doesn't represent me on matters I care about) Joe Moody isn't on there as a Nay. Just can't seem to get anyone in El Paso to get motivated to get him replaced.

TresHuevos wrote:Dog gone if my "rep" (even though he doesn't represent me on matters I care about) Joe Moody isn't on there as a Nay. Just can't seem to get anyone in El Paso to get motivated to get him replaced.

Moody had two (failed) amendments to SB16 yesterday. The first one would have made it a requirement to have a gun safe in order to get a carry permit. The second one would have eliminated the $40 fee for people who provide proof they have a gun safe. Both amendments were torpedoed by POO.

After reading the latest text, what is the status of the honorably discharged veteran fee? I did not see it mentioned.

poppo wrote:After reading the latest text, what is the status of the honorably discharged veteran fee? I did not see it mentioned.

Wondered about that myself, but I think since it's not addressed in the SB16 text I read that it stands as is.

Papa_Tiger wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

AF-Odin wrote:Newspaper article this morning about SB-16 stating that this bill will "strip" millions of dollars from state education funding because of reducing LTC fees. Hmmmm, thought I paid a substantial amount in taxes that fund education/ Why should a DPS licensing program fund other state agencies? LTC fee should pay for DPS to conduct a background check and process the plastic, nothing more. The antis will grasp at any straw.

Can you provide a link to the article? That sounds like a bunch of bull. More fake news.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/state-- ... 1nyIk3SzJ/
From the ever unbiased Austin American Statesman -

The bill would cost the state $22 million in lost revenue over the next two years, according to the Legislative Budget Board.

State Rep. Nicole Collier, D-Fort Worth who voted against the bill, said that the money should be spent on more pressing matters like schools or child welfare. She also said that guns are being given special treatment.

Does this mean the Rep Collier would oppose a bill outlawing carrying of firearms in Texas and eliminating the LTC all together since it would cost the state revenue?

Interesting that Nevarez was an aye....

Since this is my first Texas legislative session experience I keep wondering when they are going to stop talking and actually vote in both chambers about all of these proposed bills? Do they waste vast amounts of time and then vote on everything in the last few days?

bblhd672 wrote:Since this is my first Texas legislative session experience I keep wondering when they are going to stop talking and actually vote in both chambers about all of these proposed bills? Do they waste vast amounts of time and then vote on everything in the last few days?

Yeah... Kinda - least it always seems that way to me. From what I remember in Texas Government class back in the day, the last week or 2 is a flurry of yays and nays on the floor as they speed vote things into law. Granted in most cases I believe they have spent the time in session debating, wheeling-n-dealing, etc on the bill so they already have an idea of how to vote when it comes up.

yeah, here over the next month it's going to get crazy in there...

Pariah3j wrote:

bblhd672 wrote:Since this is my first Texas legislative session experience I keep wondering when they are going to stop talking and actually vote in both chambers about all of these proposed bills? Do they waste vast amounts of time and then vote on everything in the last few days?

Yeah... Kinda - least it always seems that way to me. From what I remember in Texas Government class back in the day, the last week or 2 is a flurry of yays and nays on the floor as they speed vote things into law. Granted in most cases I believe they have spent the time in session debating, wheeling-n-dealing, etc on the bill so they already have an idea of how to vote when it comes up.

The talking is the real work. The voting is the result of the talking.

Most of the talking happens off the floor between legislators and groups of legislators in formal and informal non-public meetings, on the phone, whatever. Also committee meetings. On the last few days you will see whoever is holding the chair position sounding like an auctioneer as he announces bills for their third reading and has a quick vote on them -- these are bills that everyone knows they are not going to argue about (from all the previous talking), they're just going to get passed, so they put them on a special calendar and run through them all at once.

The ones like you see in the movies, where long debates over various amendments happen, are very few because there is simply not enough time in the whole legislative season to do that for each bill. These are bills with lots of support on both sides, for and agin, to the level that the Speaker of the House or the President of the Senate doesn't think he can get away with killing them in a committee (if he opposes) or run them through the consent calendar (if he likes them). The budget is always in this category, and last time Campus Carry and Open Carry were too.

Going from memory, there are something like 10,000 bills filed each session, of which maybe a few hundred advance beyond that point. Only a relative handful get full-fledged debate on the floor of the Senate and/or House.