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I appreciate that direct input, idrathernot.

I haven't seen her speak other than in some videos, so it's good to hear from someone who has seen her in person.

Debra Medina is for open carry. You don't need a CHL for that.

For those of you who think you own your property, think again. Even after it's paid for you will forever pay the State of Texas taxes on it and should you ever fail to do so you will no longer have that property no mater how little you owe. The state will confiscate your property. Debra Medina wants to eliminate that. When you buy property you will pay sales tax on it like everything else and that will be the end of it.

For those who have never listened to Debra Medina, one thing you'll notice is when she is asked a question she answers it with an actual answer and not political double speak. She has even been known to answer a question with a yes or no. You will never hear a politician do that.

Unless we have allodial title, your property could still be subject to forfeiture through liens, judgments, or eminent domain. Those are less risky (or at least expose fewer people) than property tax sales, but eliminating property tax doesn't mean your title is bulletproof.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of eliminating the property tax. I just don't want to shift it all to sales tax. I want to reduce the amount spent first, then worry about the collection mechanism.

We do have allodial title in Texas, and I love that. I think we're the only state in the compact who still has it. I think it should be more accessible and more permanent (allodial title should be transferrable via wills, for example).

I think in spite of some of my misgivings, Medina has my vote. She is definitely the best of the options. And praise the Lord that we do seem to have some pretty decent options this time.

TheArmedFarmer wrote:We do have allodial title in Texas, and I love that. I think we're the only state in the compact who still has it. I think it should be more accessible and more permanent (allodial title should be transferrable via wills, for example).

Can you provide some more details. I heard Texas has them but I can't find the law.

Allodial title is a wonderful idea because your property is your property, not subject to taxes, eminent domain, seizure by any creditors, etc. Texas law does protect your homestead from some creditors, but not eminent domain, HOAs, mortgage banks, etc. and you can reduce property taxes through a homestead exemption but not eliminate them.

TheArmedFarmer wrote:We do have allodial title in Texas, and I love that. I think we're the only state in the compact who still has it.

No, we really don't. There's a lot of internet myth out there, though.

There might be someone somewhere with a land title filed as allodial, but it's so rare that no one knows of it being done.

chabouk wrote:No, we really don't. There's a lot of internet myth out there, though.

There might be someone somewhere with a land title filed as allodial, but it's so rare that no one knows of it being done.

I must be mis-reading you. First you said we don't, then you said that there may be some out there.

Yes, allodial title is EXTREMELY inaccessible, and I think that's a shame. For freedom's sake, It should be brought back in full force and become the default method of land ownership, in my opinion.

I'll ask again. Please cite the law for allodial title in Texas. I can't find it but IANAL.

TheArmedFarmer wrote:

chabouk wrote:No, we really don't. There's a lot of internet myth out there, though.

There might be someone somewhere with a land title filed as allodial, but it's so rare that no one knows of it being done.

I must be mis-reading you. First you said we don't, then you said that there may be some out there.

Yes, allodial title is EXTREMELY inaccessible, and I think that's a shame. For freedom's sake, It should be brought back in full force and become the default method of land ownership, in my opinion.

Okay, I should have phrased it as, "No, we don't, really." Meaning exactly what you said: that if it's out there, it's almost impossible to get. I've heard nothing but rumors.

Yeah, it's nigh near non-existent, and if you can manage to get it, you're still not likely to enjoy the benefits as the courts know and care little about such matters. It may be that one day this will change.

See that's why I read this forum. I have never heard of Allodial Title. So I did what I do for most aspects of government I'm unfamiliar with, I got Thomas Jefferson's take on it.

idrathernot wrote:See that's why I read this forum. I have never heard of Allodial Title. So I did what I do for most aspects of government I'm unfamiliar with, I got Thomas Jefferson's take on it.

Good link, thanks.

From my take on "Allodial Title":

allodial title = squatter's rights = Law of Adverse Possession.

Uhhhh....isn't this a little off topic from the title of the thread?

idrathernot wrote:See that's why I read this forum. I have never heard of Allodial Title. So I did what I do for most aspects of government I'm unfamiliar with, I got Thomas Jefferson's take on it.

This was a valuable link - thank you! I read it last night and can now conclude that allodial title is a pipedream.

So, Debra Medina's idea of abolishing property tax is the right direction to go, after all. Go Medina!