RPB wrote:Beiruty wrote:What an Afghan Vertran who cannot ID Friend or Foe even when the suspected target wears the same uniform

yeah everyone in Afghanistan is safer with him at UT then
If you want to disagree with my viewpoint, that's fine. but you're calling my ability as soldier? you don't know me or anything about me. if you said that to me in person i would guarantee you a swift punch to the throat. I may not have come across as eloquently as i liked, public speaking is not my thing and this was the first time i'd ever done anything political. not to mention, this is my actual name that pops up now under this when you google it. so now every company or person who looks me up will read this while you remain anonymous. there are several things i would like to say, but will not here, because if i did my comment would be deleted. most involve four letter words, as sarah palin would say, or maybe something from a certain george carlin skit.
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here's a list of several cases of people who ended up dying in blue on blue engagements. these are only the cases where people were killed, you'll note that many of them came from bombs or aircraft, which do a great deal more damage than small arms. but, remember, that for the most part potential enemies are identified by other troops on the groung who are calling in for support.
one notable case was that of pat tillman, where army rangers started shooting at each other after an explosion. army rangers are some of the best soldiers in any military. if it can happen to them, i guarantee it can happen to anyone else. but please, if you wish to continue the debate, just walk up to a group of them in a bar and tell them they are (for the lack of a better word) bad soldiers, which is what you're calling me. I'd love to see that go down.
many times they don't end in people getting killed, because both sides have been trained in how to make use of cover. since you all seem to know so much more than someone who was actually in a war, i assume you know what that means, but just in case, it's where you hide behind something. you know. so you can't see them. or their uniforms. because they're intelligent, sentient beings and not paper targets. Thanks to the use of things like blue force trackers, radios, and seasoned soldiers ability to tell the difference between the sound of an m-4 and a ak-47, they usually figure it out before people get shot. like they thankfully did in the 2 cases i saw happen.
i very willing to bet neither of you have ever actually engaged a person before. if you did, it was probably one person trying to mug you or something, in a very clean cut situation, which is not what i was referring to. you clearly haven't been in any sort of real engagement, or you would understand exactly what im talking about when i say it's confusing. confusing and terrifying. shame on you.