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Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:42 pm
by K5GU
SewTexas wrote:could there be a problem with the fact that campus carry and open carry is doing the public testimony at the same time? are people seeing this as an all or nothing? that people are imagining that it's either open carry on campus or nothing?
Combining the testimonies is certainly confusing to me. Not sure what their agenda is, other than maybe to save time?

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:43 pm
by mtnthundr2
TVGuy wrote:This law school woman seems fun. I wish they would pass campus carry just so she'll leave the state as she promises.

There's a really good law school in CT, I'm sure she'd fit right in up there ;-) and be much happier in that state.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:46 pm
by mojo84
I think it's because they both have an excellent shot at passing and they are on the fast track. Also, I don't think the committee really weighs the speakers comments that heavily. The bills already have enough support to get out of committee. I take it they are just going through the steps of the hearing because they have to.

This is all just my opinion.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:48 pm
by Keith B
K5GU wrote:
SewTexas wrote:could there be a problem with the fact that campus carry and open carry is doing the public testimony at the same time? are people seeing this as an all or nothing? that people are imagining that it's either open carry on campus or nothing?
Combining the testimonies is certainly confusing to me. Not sure what their agenda is, other than maybe to save time?
I thank the pressure from constituents to get these bills to the floor for a vote is what has pushed both of these to the top of the list. If they get these out there and out of the way, which ever way they fall once they go to the floor, then the vote will be recorded and the public can't say the bills were swept under the rug in committee.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:49 pm
by steveincowtown
David from Open Carry Texas is up in the next 6 minutes.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:52 pm
by ELB
Will a transcript of this hearing be published anytime soon?

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:54 pm
by steveincowtown
I have been listening on and off all day, and I will have to say I am surprised at the sheer number of folks that have showed up to speak "On" SB11 and SB17 and encourage an amendment to make it constitutional carry. I can't see how this could even happen, but I will say that there all lots of people speaking that think it should.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:57 pm
by mojo84
steveincowtown wrote:I have been listening on and off all day, and I will have to say I am surprised at the sheer number of folks that have showed up to speak "On" SB11 and SB17 and encourage an amendment to make it constitutional carry. I can't see how this could even happen, but I will say that there all lots of people speaking that think it should.

I can't see it happening based on the committee members comments earlier.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:57 pm
by canvasbck
David from OCT actually gave a good testimony.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:58 pm
by J.R.@A&M
K5GU wrote:
SewTexas wrote:could there be a problem with the fact that campus carry and open carry is doing the public testimony at the same time? are people seeing this as an all or nothing? that people are imagining that it's either open carry on campus or nothing?
Combining the testimonies is certainly confusing to me. Not sure what their agenda is, other than maybe to save time?
I think that one effect of the combined hearing is to dilute or buffer the criticism of these bills, but especially the opposition to campus carry. Part of it is the implied advantage of concealed carry from the criticisms of open carry. Part of it is the comparison of concealed carry proponents compared to the rabid open carry proponents. Part of it is simply the doubly tiring effect of dealing with two issues instead of just focusing on one.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:58 pm
by canvasbck
Here comes CJ Grisham

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:58 pm
by Rrash
J.R.@A&M wrote:Baylor prof talking... Yes, I can believe that there are dangerous compressed gases in your classroom.
Wait a minute? My child could die if he is in a classroom that has compressed gases in it. We need to ban this stuff!

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:59 pm
by TVGuy
Here comes CJ

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:01 pm
by TVGuy
Now you've got the guys actually opposing SB 17 because of the license portion. Scorched earth...all or nothing.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:04 pm
by Keith B
C.J. As expected, it's all about him. He is the guy... :banghead: