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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:57 am
by safety1
TXBO wrote:safety1 wrote:TXBO wrote:safety1 wrote:
They better get to it early, to prevent any possible shenanigans on the House floor.
It's not eligible to be heard until 2:40pm. I suppose they could suspend the rules but that seems unlikely to me.
I was referring to SB11, this is the last day it can be heard in the House.
But yeah.....HB910 not until at least 2:40pm today. I'm sure SB11 will take up a lot of time.
My apologies. There's so much going on, I'm going to have to pay better attention.
Not a problem at all, I too get turned around from time to time here on the forum.
Let's keep our fingers crossed for a good day today!
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 9:31 pm
by NotRPB
SB 11 out !!!
Just before that, said if not PASSED ENGROSSED before 12 midnight, it's gone... reduced it to writing
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:46 am
by cprems
NotRPB wrote:SB 11 out !!!
Just before that, said if not PASSED ENGROSSED before 12 midnight, it's gone... reduced it to writing
It passed before midnight. Apparently a nuclear option was used to shut down the amendments and get a vote. There were 3 amendments added to it.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:29 am
by J.R.@A&M
Ok then, so my free faxzero this morning is allocated to Straus, asking for supportive conferees and to strip out the private university amendment. Will call Dan Patrick's comment line on my way to work... assuming 290 isn't flooded.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:26 am
by NotRPB
J.R.@A&M wrote:Ok then, so my free faxzero this morning is allocated to Straus, asking for supportive conferees and to strip out the private university amendment. Will call Dan Patrick's comment line on my way to work... assuming 290 isn't flooded.
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Hopefully all amendments offered at 3rd reading fail except those acceptable to Author/Sponsors
(amendments at this stage require a two-thirds majority for adoption.)
"@A&M" <<< you'll see what I mean later

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:44 am
by txpilot
In case you may not have noticed, one of the amendments changed the effective date to 9/1/
2016. Here's a link to the amendment
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 011H21.PDF
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:51 am
by mr1337
I'm assuming this is so universities can determine which areas they would like to be off limits.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:55 am
by C-dub
If it does make it all the way through and becomes law, that effective date stinks! In addition to the ability of schools to make some buildings off-limits, it gives them an entire year to do it. I saw the date change earlier, but didn't notice the year. I thought they moved it up from the 1.1.16 date.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:14 am
by J.R.@A&M
C-dub wrote:
If it does make it all the way through and becomes law, that effective date stinks! In addition to the ability of schools to make some buildings off-limits, it gives them an entire year to do it. I saw the date change earlier, but didn't notice the year. I thought they moved it up from the 1.1.16 date.

Yes, it stinks. But I would take a more limited (i.e., Amendment 1) version of campus carry on 9/1/16 than having nothing until 2017 at which time we can go through all this again. The House version is still progress, and at this point I am for progress.
In fact, if the Senate has enough votes to concur (even with private university push-back because of Amendment 1), I would rather they call the democrat's bluff and vote to concur. Let the democrats live with the legacy of Amendment 1. If some future session or special session wants to deal with Amendment 1, so be it. The greater value is in shattering this arbitrary restriction on the "sanctity" of some/many/most classroom buildings. Do that and we take the wind out of their sails.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:35 am
by TexasJohnBoy
I agree -- concur and be done with it. Fix it in 17. I'll take three baby steps over a giant leap on this one.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:53 pm
by J.R.@A&M
So then my obligatory daily free Faxzero has been allocated to Sen. Birdwell:
Senator Birdwell, I remember your eloquent and principled stand during the Senate debate on SB 11 in favor of property rights and letting private universities opt out.
Because of the democrats' amendment (No. 6), that total opt out provision is no longer there. In the interests of time, I urge you to accept the House version and lead your Senate colleagues to vote to concur with it.
The House version still represents significant progress. It would finally allow campus carry in university buildings -- quite probably a lot of university buildings. It would shatter all the specious arguments that the opposition has been making about campus carry leading to violence, etc.
I say call the democrats' bluff. It is their amendment -- let them live with the legacy of it. In the meantime, do an end run around Straus and simply concur with the House version. Future sessions can fix the current weaknesses, especially after everybody gets a chance to see that (partial) campus carry turns out to be what we all expect it to be.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:55 pm
by NotRPB
occurring now motion by Birdwell to not concur SB11 (re respecting private property)
Watson and West questioned, watson is satisfied
@MarkW_KVUE 41s41 seconds ago
.@SenatorBirdwell requesting conf cmte on #campuscarry #SB11 #txlege
West says he'll vote with Ellis against campuscarry in general
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:02 pm
by tlt
Plenty of organized money against this.. ads against are running on adsense. They point to
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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:03 pm
by Tracker
Concession on campus guns, open carry agreement reached
4:38 p.m. Thursday, May 28, 2015 | Filed in: News
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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:03 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
So it sounds like the House is done for today. Says they might meet tomorrow at 10:00am. Even if conferees get appointed tomorrow, committee meets tomorrow, and distributes its report tomorrow, is there enough time to get to a vote? Saturday at midnight is the deadline to distribute committee reports, with Sunday at midnight being the deadline for votes, no? What are the chances?
Edit --->>>This question basically answered over in another thread...