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Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:03 pm
by Ruark
63 ayes, 79 nays. Motion to concur fails.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:03 pm
by Scott Farkus
When will we ever learn that you CANNOT trust a Democrat.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:05 pm
by canvasbck
Get a BIG tub of popcorn so we can all watch the Ellis filibuster in a couple of days! :banghead:

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:06 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Thank you CJ Grisham/OCT and Sen. Huffines for setting up HB910 to be filibustered. The amendment provided no protection in the real world and it may well have killed open-carry. People can argue pro and con on the merits of the amendment until the Second Coming, but the fact is it may have killed the bill.

To those who care only about making a point, rather than a difference, I hope you're happy. Mount your high horse, pontificate for hours, but make sure you keep your handgun concealed while you do so. :banghead: This is what happens when people who don't know what they are doing try to get involved in legislation that carries with it a high degree of emotion.

Chas.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:08 pm
by bones281
Somehow they made this a police issue, instead of a we the people issue. I know where my votes ate going next election.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:10 pm
by canvasbck
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Thank you CJ Grisham/OCT and Sen. Huffines for setting up HB910 to be filibustered. The amendment provided no protection in the real world and it may well have killed open-carry.

People can argue pro and con on the merits of the amendment until the Second Coming, but the fact is it may have killed the bill.

Chas.
Respectfully Chas,

Huffines deserves SOME blame, but we would be just fine if this bill (or SB17) had been promptly assigned to committee after initially passing the house/senate instead of playing a game of chicken for weeks to see who blinks first.

Edited to fix typo

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:16 pm
by hovercat
Also respectfully, what killed the bill was those who voted against it. Nothing else.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:19 pm
by paperchunker
Scott Farkus wrote:When will we ever learn that you CANNOT trust a Democrat.
38 Republicans voted against the same bill they voted for 37 days ago. I think it is them we can't trust.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:22 pm
by RPBrown
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Thank you CJ Grisham/OCT and Sen. Huffines for setting up HB910 to be filibustered. The amendment provided no protection in the real world and it may well have killed open-carry. People can argue pro and con on the merits of the amendment until the Second Coming, but the fact is it may have killed the bill.

To those who care only about making a point, rather than a difference, I hope you're happy. Mount your high horse, pontificate for hours, but make sure you keep your handgun concealed while you do so. :banghead: This is what happens when people who don't know what they are doing try to get involved in legislation that carries with it a high degree of emotion.

Chas.
Don't forget Stickland for running his mouth as well

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:24 pm
by big454
After seeing what happened with SB11 I still hold on to a glimmer of hope. :banghead:

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:29 pm
by kg5ie
The politicians win both ways....they can say they voted in support of open carry passing the bill...and they can say they voted in support of law enforcement by leaving the amendment on, thus killing the bill.

Don't you love politics!

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:31 pm
by Overthehill
Thank you Senator Huffman for stripping the House Amendment and starting us on the road to failure. Pass it as the House originally sent it and voila it is done. Send it back without the Dutton Amendment and we are in the same place. Headed to conference committee. At least the Dems stand up and fight to the end, unlike some of the Republicans we just saw bail in the face of possible bad liberal press coverage.

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:36 pm
by v7a
Presumably Republicans will be passing universal background checks next session. Because not to do so would be a slap in the face of law enforcement. :roll:

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:39 pm
by joe817
Just got back home. Have read the thread. Stickland(no r) is up. Is he trying to keep the bill alive?

Re: House 5/27 - HB910 or SB11

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:47 pm
by Ruark
I'm just dismayed to the extreme at the utter lack of common sense in this process, as well as some of the selfish, juvenile behavior.