Fox News and Associated Press says Texas is uneasy

[Breny414]

As long as no one is offended and everyone gets a trophy everything will be fine.

FOR THE WIN!!!

anygunanywhere for president of the universe.

[Abraham]

Breny414,

C'mon, admit it, you're from "Moms Demand Action" aren't you?

The one think I'm certain of is you aren't from OCT...

[mojo84]

Obviously by joining this board I, too, support the 2nd Amendment.

Not necessarily true.

[Breny414]

Breny414,

C'mon, admit it, you're from "Moms Demand Action" aren't you?

The one think I'm certain of is you aren't from OCT...

What's OCT? Not gonna OC. not me. Speak softly and carry a single stack IWB.

[Bitter Clinger]

The FBI has stated that there are active ISIS-related investigations in all 50 states. To date, 21 states have had at least one arrest within their borders. 3 in Texas:

http://cchs.gwu.edu/isis-in-america

[Javier730]

The "this really exceptional woman" could do it line reminds me of a famous quote of Johnson's about women preaching:

"Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."
from Boswell's Life of Johnson

He didnt know what he was talking about. This dog did it quite well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC8mh6E7Kfs

[Abraham]

Breny414,

Leftists are few and far between on this board.

Given your penchant for leftist sloganeering, what do you hope to accomplish coming here?

Few accept your professed bona fides as a pro gun person.

What's your agenda coming here?

If you really care to learn more about shooting, guns and accessories, CHL questions, etc., you must appreciate those with these honest inquires are welcomed.

You however, seem to be a rather obvious contrivance.

Please, demonstrate I'm wrong.

[Breny414]

Breny414,

Leftists are few and far between on this board.

Given your penchant for leftist sloganeering, what do you hope to accomplish coming here?

Few accept your professed bona fides as a pro gun person.

What's your agenda coming here?

If you really care to learn more about shooting, guns and accessories, CHL questions, etc., you must appreciate those with these honest inquires are welcomed.

You however, seem to be a rather obvious contrivance.

Please, demonstrate I'm wrong.

Abraham,

my views on the women in the military and the 2nd amendment cause are mutually exclusive. One has nothing to do with the other. admittedly, they tend to usually break out along the same political lines for many folks, which to too bad.

My agenda for coming here is that I'm getting my CHL and stumbled across this site via the "waiting room." A Google search for "how long to get CHL" brought me here. So I joined.

I've been open and honest about my point of view, would you have it any other way? Should I be quiet and not contribute?

I don't think any of my posts have been contrived. I didn't initiate this discussion or contrive in any way to bring it up. There were several posts and counter posts that occurred before I gave an opinion.

I guess the phrase "free your mind" is leftist drivel of anti gunners... I will not use it again.

Regards,

[TXBO]

Breny414,

Leftists are few and far between on this board.

Given your penchant for leftist sloganeering, what do you hope to accomplish coming here?

Few accept your professed bona fides as a pro gun person.

What's your agenda coming here?

If you really care to learn more about shooting, guns and accessories, CHL questions, etc., you must appreciate those with these honest inquires are welcomed.

You however, seem to be a rather obvious contrivance.

Please, demonstrate I'm wrong.

What are you doing?

[Javier730]

Breny414,

Leftists are few and far between on this board.

Given your penchant for leftist sloganeering, what do you hope to accomplish coming here?

Few accept your professed bona fides as a pro gun person.

What's your agenda coming here?

If you really care to learn more about shooting, guns and accessories, CHL questions, etc., you must appreciate those with these honest inquires are welcomed.

You however, seem to be a rather obvious contrivance.

Please, demonstrate I'm wrong.

Abraham,

my views on the women in the military and the 2nd amendment cause are mutually exclusive. One has nothing to do with the other. admittedly, they tend to usually break out along the same political lines for many folks, which to too bad.

My agenda for coming here is that I'm getting my CHL and stumbled across this site via the "waiting room." A Google search for "how long to get CHL" brought me here. So I joined.

I've been open and honest about my point of view, would you have it any other way? Should I be quiet and not contribute?

I don't think any of my posts have been contrived. I didn't initiate this discussion or contrive in any way to bring it up. There were several posts and counter posts that occurred before I gave an opinion.

I guess the phrase "free your mind" is leftist drivel of anti gunners... I will not use it again.

Regards,

[IsraelisJewish]

It's Dec 18 . . . I guess Fox News has it wrong, this is one Texan who is not uneasy or nervous about the upcoming OC. In fact, I am feeling more and more rested, confidant and good about OC.

[Abraham]

IsraelisJewish,

We too think alike.

Every day I ponder whether I'll ever outright OC, but I know for sure I won't go to great lengths to cover up anymore...you say you got a peep of my OWB holstered Glock 19 because my vest was hit by the wind and flapped open, no problem...

[IsraelisJewish]

Yep, Abe you got it. Will still cc but if it prints or shows no more worries. Thats the upshot for me. However, i will seriously be attempting to cc. IMO it's an advantage. This has been said before and I agree with that thought. I think if I OC I will be open to differing reactions and criticism in OC. I am not afraid of that, just don't want the hassle of explaining anything. I wish to exercise my right/privilege but do not want to be messed with by unknown lefties, liberals, concerned citizens, anti-gun people, etc. I know there are folk here who will take a different view-wishing to talk about it to anyone and seeing that as a way to spread the OC and rights and all. In that moment, should it happen in public I doubt the value of that discussion. It needs to take place elsewhere to be very valuable and to produce social change.

[oljames3]

Jago668, I understand the point. I do believe there is an ample supply of women who can... just a belief. whether or not recruiters ("your recruiter lied to you, son" ) will make sure the individual is qualified is another matter.

FWIW, I wasn't in infantry and I didn't want anything to do with infantry. when I got my orders and they said 3rd Infantry Division I was pretty bummed because I didn't know any better. Wound up in an artillery battalion. And I have no doubt that women can do that... cut the powder, pull the lanyard, etc, etc.

That may be, but can they hump a 204 lb of HE round a hundred yards from battery 1 to battery 4 during a fire for effect? Been there and it is no fun. Especially with a center battery running low because they are firing the ranging rounds and need to borrow from other guns while the ammo people are getting another load of ammo.

Manually carrying an 8 inch round from one battery to another is hyperbole. The manual calls for two-man lift on that round. However, as the Fire Direction Officer of an M109A1 battery, I routinely had the gun section chiefs cross level projectile types across the battery. This could cause soldiers to pick up the roughly 90-100 pound projectiles and carry them 250 yards from one end of the battery to the other. Some would carry two, most would carry one. Current tactics are very different.

Current tactics on loading are still very similar. The M109A6 Paladin fires 4 rounds a minute for 4 minutes then 1 round a minute. The loader (#1 man in my day) has to pick up the projectile from the floor of the cab to about chest height in order to lay it in the loading tray. That's lifting about 100 pounds from the floor to chest height 16 times in 4 minutes.

As a Pershing missile platoon leader, I had women 15E soldiers. They could not keep up with the male soldiers in the physical task of preparing the missiles for launch. We found it most efficient to relegate the females to the less strenuous tasks. This part is the same with male soldiers. We assign the work to those who can do it best. I prefer that all my soldiers be able to perform all the tasks required. We were able to overcome creating shower schedules and managing the co-ed barracks. I did, however, send two female soldiers back the States when they chose to be discharged due to pregnancy.

Saying women can't do the job is too broad a statement. There are many aspects of field artillery for which men are better suited. On example is loading the 155mm howitzers.

The field artillery celebrates Molly Pitcher and Saint Barbara. One of my daughters served a hitch in the Army. I have led women in combat arms in Germany during the cold war. We can make it work. I would prefer that all my soldiers be required to achieve the same performance in all aspects of their Military Occupational Specialty. Bottom line is the Army will follow orders and make it work. This does not make the orders right. It is simply that the Army excels at adapting and overcoming.

2/19 FA, 1CD
1/81FA, 56FA BDE (Pershing)
FA School Instructor, Weapons Department
Pershing Missile Force Integration Staff Officer
2/27 FA, 3AD
4/133 FA, 49AD
National Guard Regional Training Institute Artillery Instructor