Re: Still won't vote for Trump?
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:37 am
Wow...Bitter Clinger wrote:https://youtu.be/BdNHf1g4ivA
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Wow...Bitter Clinger wrote:https://youtu.be/BdNHf1g4ivA
If I voted base on how I feel about this election and the two main candidates, I wouldn't vote. Neither candidate is anywhere near ideal in my opinion. However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump. Sometimes as adults, we can't just go along with what we "feel". Sometimes we have to make hard decisions and do what is right based on what we think and know.NiMexicatl wrote: I 100% understand where you're coming from. This election isn't ideal, for me or a lot of others. I struggle with the contradiction of my political stances and the anti-gun association that seems to be hard to avoid these days. All I can say is I put my votes where I feel I must, based on both personal importance and compromise where I feel it is either unavoidable or unlikely to to truly occur. I don't want this to be taken as a specific statment on the 2nd ammendment. It's just my approach in a general sense.
I try to make it as informed as possible. I try to urge moderation and education in my personal life. I've made the mistake of not being careful enough with my words on the internet before. I try to avoid it where I can, but admittedly that's not always the case.
Nuances of conversation can be lost on these forums, and a lot of people fall directly into attack mode when backed by the majority. So I'll stay out of this one and most others where I can help it.
Good point Mojo. There are way too many feelings voters and not enough thinking voters.mojo84 wrote:If I voted base on how I feel about this election and the two main candidates, I wouldn't vote. Neither candidate is anywhere near ideal in my opinion. However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump. Sometimes as adults, we can't just go along with what we "feel". Sometimes we have to make hard decisions and do what is right based on what we think and know.NiMexicatl wrote: I 100% understand where you're coming from. This election isn't ideal, for me or a lot of others. I struggle with the contradiction of my political stances and the anti-gun association that seems to be hard to avoid these days. All I can say is I put my votes where I feel I must, based on both personal importance and compromise where I feel it is either unavoidable or unlikely to to truly occur. I don't want this to be taken as a specific statment on the 2nd ammendment. It's just my approach in a general sense.
I try to make it as informed as possible. I try to urge moderation and education in my personal life. I've made the mistake of not being careful enough with my words on the internet before. I try to avoid it where I can, but admittedly that's not always the case.
Nuances of conversation can be lost on these forums, and a lot of people fall directly into attack mode when backed by the majority. So I'll stay out of this one and most others where I can help it.
We know Hillary's history and where she stands on most major issues. We know what Trump is saying his position is. That is what we need to make our decision on and do what is right for the country even if both candidates are less than palatable.
I hope I spoke clearly enough so there are no nuances that get lost in my conversation as I do not intend this as nothing but a direct non beating around the bush pleading to vote based upon what you know and think and not so much what you "feel".
mojo84 wrote:If I voted base on how I feel about this election and the two main candidates, I wouldn't vote. Neither candidate is anywhere near ideal in my opinion. However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump. Sometimes as adults, we can't just go along with what we "feel". Sometimes we have to make hard decisions and do what is right based on what we think and know.NiMexicatl wrote: I 100% understand where you're coming from. This election isn't ideal, for me or a lot of others. I struggle with the contradiction of my political stances and the anti-gun association that seems to be hard to avoid these days. All I can say is I put my votes where I feel I must, based on both personal importance and compromise where I feel it is either unavoidable or unlikely to to truly occur. I don't want this to be taken as a specific statment on the 2nd ammendment. It's just my approach in a general sense.
I try to make it as informed as possible. I try to urge moderation and education in my personal life. I've made the mistake of not being careful enough with my words on the internet before. I try to avoid it where I can, but admittedly that's not always the case.
Nuances of conversation can be lost on these forums, and a lot of people fall directly into attack mode when backed by the majority. So I'll stay out of this one and most others where I can help it.
We know Hillary's history and where she stands on most major issues. We know what Trump is saying his position is. That is what we need to make our decision on and do what is right for the country even if both candidates are less than palatable.
I hope I spoke clearly enough so there are no nuances that get lost in my conversation as I do not intend this as nothing but a direct non beating around the bush pleading to vote based upon what you know and think and not so much what you "feel".
I've said it's the difference between a fully loaded revolver and one with just one cartridge loaded.Flightmare wrote:mojo84 wrote:If I voted base on how I feel about this election and the two main candidates, I wouldn't vote. Neither candidate is anywhere near ideal in my opinion. However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump. Sometimes as adults, we can't just go along with what we "feel". Sometimes we have to make hard decisions and do what is right based on what we think and know.NiMexicatl wrote: I 100% understand where you're coming from. This election isn't ideal, for me or a lot of others. I struggle with the contradiction of my political stances and the anti-gun association that seems to be hard to avoid these days. All I can say is I put my votes where I feel I must, based on both personal importance and compromise where I feel it is either unavoidable or unlikely to to truly occur. I don't want this to be taken as a specific statment on the 2nd ammendment. It's just my approach in a general sense.
I try to make it as informed as possible. I try to urge moderation and education in my personal life. I've made the mistake of not being careful enough with my words on the internet before. I try to avoid it where I can, but admittedly that's not always the case.
Nuances of conversation can be lost on these forums, and a lot of people fall directly into attack mode when backed by the majority. So I'll stay out of this one and most others where I can help it.
We know Hillary's history and where she stands on most major issues. We know what Trump is saying his position is. That is what we need to make our decision on and do what is right for the country even if both candidates are less than palatable.
I hope I spoke clearly enough so there are no nuances that get lost in my conversation as I do not intend this as nothing but a direct non beating around the bush pleading to vote based upon what you know and think and not so much what you "feel".
I've told friends; Voting for Trump is like playing russian roulette with a revolver. Voting for Hillary is like playing russian roulette with a semi-auto.
mojo84 wrote:If I voted base on how I feel about this election and the two main candidates, I wouldn't vote. Neither candidate is anywhere near ideal in my opinion. However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump. Sometimes as adults, we can't just go along with what we "feel". Sometimes we have to make hard decisions and do what is right based on what we think and know.NiMexicatl wrote: I 100% understand where you're coming from. This election isn't ideal, for me or a lot of others. I struggle with the contradiction of my political stances and the anti-gun association that seems to be hard to avoid these days. All I can say is I put my votes where I feel I must, based on both personal importance and compromise where I feel it is either unavoidable or unlikely to to truly occur. I don't want this to be taken as a specific statment on the 2nd ammendment. It's just my approach in a general sense.
I try to make it as informed as possible. I try to urge moderation and education in my personal life. I've made the mistake of not being careful enough with my words on the internet before. I try to avoid it where I can, but admittedly that's not always the case.
Nuances of conversation can be lost on these forums, and a lot of people fall directly into attack mode when backed by the majority. So I'll stay out of this one and most others where I can help it.
We know Hillary's history and where she stands on most major issues. We know what Trump is saying his position is. That is what we need to make our decision on and do what is right for the country even if both candidates are less than palatable.
I also think a republican majority congress will be able to reign in Trump than they would Hillary. Hillary would just run over congress like Obama has.
I hope I spoke clearly enough so there are no nuances that get lost in my conversation as I do not intend this as nothing but a direct non beating around the bush pleading to vote based upon what you know and think and not so much what you "feel".
A vote for Hillary is more like playing Russian roulette with a hand grenade at a gas station during a group hug with all your closest friends.Flightmare wrote:I've told friends; Voting for Trump is like playing russian roulette with a revolver. Voting for Hillary is like playing russian roulette with a semi-auto.
There's just no getting through to some of you is there? I did not say feelings substitute thinking. I don't understand what's missing here. Let me break this down to a few points:Abraham wrote:Feewings, nothing more than feewings, trying to forget my feewings for clinton.
Sorry old chum, but feelings don't substitute for thinking.
Please, let me ask: Are you of the liberal persuasion?
You posted: " because on internet people are just going to jump on anything I say"
Wow!
Really?
On anything you say?
Why is that?
Are you a celebrity or something akin to that?
Not being snarky, just curious.
Now, on Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:32 pm you wrote:NiMexicatl wrote:To put it simply, I honestly don't think there's much at this point that can convince me to vote Trump.
I guess we have accomplished something, since now you are convinced to vote for Trump.NiMexicatl wrote:However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump.
That second comment about voting for Trump is mine. It appears he didn't feel like using the quote function or "".bblhd672 wrote:On Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:33 pm you wrote:Now, on Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:32 pm you wrote:NiMexicatl wrote:To put it simply, I honestly don't think there's much at this point that can convince me to vote Trump.I guess we have accomplished something, since now you are convinced to vote for Trump.NiMexicatl wrote:However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump.
Ah..well don't I look like a dummy!mojo84 wrote:That second comment about voting for Trump is mine. It appears he didn't feel like using the quote function or "".bblhd672 wrote:On Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:33 pm you wrote:Now, on Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:32 pm you wrote:NiMexicatl wrote:To put it simply, I honestly don't think there's much at this point that can convince me to vote Trump.I guess we have accomplished something, since now you are convinced to vote for Trump.NiMexicatl wrote:However, based on what I know and think I have to vote for Trump.