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The Mad Moderate wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:

speedsix wrote:
...it's being reported as "trace amounts"...not enough to make him unable to understand when someone was definitely following him...

So instead of being a drug induced stupid teen he was just a thug.

MJ will stay in your system for more than 30 days in some cases. And where did it say he followed him because he thought he was high?

Zimmerman said that on the 911 tape.

Oldgringo wrote:Furthermore, I seriously question whether many of us would stand "Neighborhood Watch" in our respective communities. In an earlier post, you said that you wouldn't disarm to be on 'Neighborhood Watch' and I'm a little old to be out past 2100 hrs. So, who amonst us might possibly find ourselves in George's shoes, eh? If any do, perhaps they have learned something from this long and drawn out bit of jabberwockey. Good luck and God bless.

I gotta tell you, if I ever had any desire to be on a neighborhood watch team before now (and I've been willing in the past), this whole episode pretty much cured me of it. And I've been one of Z's supporters in this thread. From now on, if any neighborhood I live in is going to hades, I'm just going to let it. When it gets bad enough, I'll move. If neighbors don't care enough to pitch in together, and stand up for one another when a neighbor is in legal manure up to his neck because he was keeping an eye out for his neighbors' welfare, then that neighborhood plainly deservers whatever Gomorra comes slouching its way. If people don't think their neighborhoods are worth preserving, then who am I to disabuse them of the notion?

I can't wait to move to the country.............and I live in a pretty nice area.

speedsix wrote:
...you keep bringing up that "girl in the short skirt" ...it has no relevance...none whatsoever...we're not talking about clothing...but about ACTIONS...

...that "loose cannon" going off wouldn't have changed "poor GZ" or his life at all...had stupid GZ not have gone following after him...instead of letting the police do their job...

...I won't debate this with you anymore...I'm off to follow that "girl in the short skirt"...seems a lot more logical and worthwhile...

I bring it up because they both do something tactically unwise, but legally permissible and yet Z is getting trashed for defending himself and the girl would get a medal. Additionally, tantilizing young men is most assuredly an action.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:Furthermore, I seriously question whether many of us would stand "Neighborhood Watch" in our respective communities. In an earlier post, you said that you wouldn't disarm to be on 'Neighborhood Watch' and I'm a little old to be out past 2100 hrs. So, who amonst us might possibly find ourselves in George's shoes, eh? If any do, perhaps they have learned something from this long and drawn out bit of jabberwockey. Good luck and God bless.

I gotta tell you, if I ever had any desire to be on a neighborhood watch team before now (and I've been willing in the past), this whole episode pretty much cured me of it. And I've been one of Z's supporters in this thread. From now on, if any neighborhood I live in is going to hades, I'm just going to let it. When it gets bad enough, I'll move. If neighbors don't care enough to pitch in together, and stand up for one another when a neighbor is in legal manure up to his neck because he was keeping an eye out for his neighbors' welfare, then that neighborhood plainly deservers whatever Gomorra comes slouching its way. If people don't think their neighborhoods are worth preserving, then who am I to disabuse them of the notion?

I can't wait to move to the country.............and I live in a pretty nice area.

mamabearCali wrote:

The Mad Moderate wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:

speedsix wrote:
...it's being reported as "trace amounts"...not enough to make him unable to understand when someone was definitely following him...

So instead of being a drug induced stupid teen he was just a thug.

MJ will stay in your system for more than 30 days in some cases. And where did it say he followed him because he thought he was high?

Zimmerman said that on the 911 tape.

And how does one look high. Especially on MJ, could he see his eyes were red all the way from the car? Did he smell it? Or did he just suspect it because he looked like a "thug"?

I shall quote the supreme court on pornography......it is hard to describe, but you know it when you see it. This time it was likely a combination of strange behaviors that made Z suspicious, but that is just a guess based on the level of light that would have been available at that hour.

The Mad Moderate wrote:And how does one look high. Especially on MJ, could he see his eyes were red all the way from the car? Did he smell it? Or did he just suspect it because he looked like a "thug"?

TM didn't just smoke MJ. He also used "sizzurp", a combination of Arizona Watermelon Tea, Skittles and Robitussin that makes you high. When mixed with MJ it can have unexpected effects similar to PCP. If you don't have any experience dealing with people high on drugs (I do), you might not recognize the signs. There are numerous signs that can be easily picked up from a reasonable distance; fidgety movements, constant meaningless motions of the hands, arms and legs, frequently dropping things, wandering aimlessly, gazing for lengthy periods of time at fixed objects, impaired coordination, chain smoking, etc., etc.

baldeagle wrote:....There are numerous signs that can be easily picked up from a reasonable distance; fidgety movements, constant meaningless motions of the hands, arms and legs, frequently dropping things, wandering aimlessly, gazing for lengthy periods of time at fixed objects, impaired coordination, chain smoking, etc., etc.

A lot of people, young and old, display the "signs" you describe - day and night. Let's go boys, git your guns and let's shoot 'em.

mamabearCali wrote:I shall quote the supreme court on pornography......it is hard to describe, but you know it when you see it.

Isn't that also true of beauty?

Oldgringo wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:I shall quote the supreme court on pornography......it is hard to describe, but you know it when you see it.

Isn't that also true of beauty?

Is that with a short skirt?

jocat54 wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:I shall quote the supreme court on pornography......it is hard to describe, but you know it when you see it.

Isn't that also true of beauty?

Is that with a short skirt?

Old gringo I imagine it is the same for beauty. I find my grandmother beautiful (an amazing combination of love, kindness, wisdom, grace, and patience) but not in the same way I admire my husbands legs.

Oldgringo wrote:

baldeagle wrote:....There are numerous signs that can be easily picked up from a reasonable distance; fidgety movements, constant meaningless motions of the hands, arms and legs, frequently dropping things, wandering aimlessly, gazing for lengthy periods of time at fixed objects, impaired coordination, chain smoking, etc., etc.

A lot of people, young and old, display the "signs" you describe - day and night. Let's go boys, git your guns and let's shoot 'em.

If they are bashing your head on the ground or threatening to....I say stop the threat to your life. TM was not shot for doing drugs, he was shot for attacking Z with lethal force.

mamabearCali wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

baldeagle wrote:....There are numerous signs that can be easily picked up from a reasonable distance; fidgety movements, constant meaningless motions of the hands, arms and legs, frequently dropping things, wandering aimlessly, gazing for lengthy periods of time at fixed objects, impaired coordination, chain smoking, etc., etc.

A lot of people, young and old, display the "signs" you describe - day and night. Let's go boys, git your guns and let's shoot 'em.

If they are bashing your head on the ground or threatening to....I say stop the threat to your life. TM was not shot for doing drugs, he was shot for attacking Z with lethal force.

If your head stayed in the vehicle where it belonged, it wouldn't get bashed on the ground. Okay, you can have the last word...and I mean it.

Please lock this thread up after mambearCali has her last word. I give up, she wins, enough already. Is there nothing on TV?

Meh...I have said enough. We both know what I would say anyway.

Too late for TV...go to Netflix.

Well, my phone won't let me quote. But I was recently thinking pretty much the same as TAM in regards to NW and my own neighbors. The only one I'd do something for is the retired Navy corpsman next to me. Otherwise, why should I if folks would just leave you hanging anyway? Once again, its y'alls world; I'm just passing through.