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Wow, just wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00

Canton, Ohio: City Council Alan Schulman President Railing Against Concealed Carry

The profanity and bravado used by this LEO, is IMO just a fact that he has very poor communication skills. I would bet his regular conversations are also laced with profanity. Thusly, when he panics, and that is what he apparently does when he finds anyone other than him with a gun, he goes into the bravado mode and uses profanity injected heavily in his rants.

chasfm11 wrote:Wow, just wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00

Canton, Ohio: City Council Alan Schulman President Railing Against Concealed Carry

Yeah, same link as posted above in another users post. He is a staunch Democrat and anti-gun. Says it all.

chasfm11 wrote:Wow, just wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00

Canton, Ohio: City Council Alan Schulman President Railing Against Concealed Carry

That is as disgusting as the conduct of the police officer. The attitude of "You don't live here!" is outmoded in today's world. Get with the times Councilman.

SQLGeek wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:Wow, just wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00

Canton, Ohio: City Council Alan Schulman President Railing Against Concealed Carry

That is as disgusting as the conduct of the police officer. The attitude of "You don't live here!" is outmoded in today's world. Get with the times Councilman.

I thought the same thing. Thank God I live in Texas.

I would be willing to bet that this officer talks to people like this every night he works. He needs to find a new line of work.

Blindref757 wrote:I would be willing to bet that this officer talks to people like this every night he works. He needs to find a new line of work.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't alone on this conduct either. His partner's willingness to tolerate the outbursts indicates that the opinion of the City Councilman is understood within the department. Like just about everywhere else, I'm sure that the department has a lot of good, dedicated officers. There will always be a few officers like this one who need to be kept in line. If the proper steps to do that are not taken in a timely manner, those with aberrant behavior are emboldened and just get worse.

There is another thread running now where the police department in Quartzite, AZ has become a pawn of a very public political catfight. I believe that departments often taken on the tone of their leadership. If the chief in Canton had shown that leadership, the officer in this OP would have been excused from duty from the previous the incidents that he had and this incident never would have happened. While I blame the officer, he is not singularly responsible for what happened.

chasfm11 wrote:

Blindref757 wrote:I would be willing to bet that this officer talks to people like this every night he works. He needs to find a new line of work.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't alone on this conduct either. His partner's willingness to tolerate the outbursts indicates that the opinion of the City Councilman is understood within the department. Like just about everywhere else, I'm sure that the department has a lot of good, dedicated officers. There will always be a few officers like this one who need to be kept in line. If the proper steps to do that are not taken in a timely manner, those with aberrant behavior are emboldened and just get worse.

There is another thread running now where the police department in Quartzite, AZ has become a pawn of a very public political catfight. I believe that departments often taken on the tone of their leadership. If the chief in Canton had shown that leadership, the officer in this OP would have been excused from duty from the previous the incidents that he had and this incident never would have happened. While I blame the officer, he is not singularly responsible for what happened.

You’re dead on.

When there is an established standard, common and known to all.. And a team member does something below the standard, observed by a leader, supervisor, or even a peer, but nothing is said or done. A new lower standard has effective been set and is now the norm.

chasfm11 wrote:Wow, just wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00

Canton, Ohio: City Council Alan Schulman President Railing Against Concealed Carry

So according to him you should not try to defend yourself when traveling through a bad part of town.... How does that even make since? How does he think it works you get stopped by some thugs and are unable to defend yourself so they pity you and let you go since you are unrealistic in your expectation of what might happen?

I stopped listening 3/4th of the way through he was really annoying me, I can understand if he was trying to say don't condemn all of our officers because of one but I don't think that was what he was trying to say.

paulhailes wrote:
I stopped listening 3/4th of the way through he was really annoying me, I can understand if he was trying to say don't condemn all of our officers because of one but I don't think that was what he was trying to say.

That certainly WASN'T what he was saying. He was saying it's all the fault of the legal CHL holders -- and those that pass laws allowing it.

sjfcontrol wrote:

paulhailes wrote:
I stopped listening 3/4th of the way through he was really annoying me, I can understand if he was trying to say don't condemn all of our officers because of one but I don't think that was what he was trying to say.

That certainly WASN'T what he was saying. He was saying it's all the fault of the legal CHL holders -- and those that pass laws allowing it.

Yah I should have said I know thats not what he was saying, I just really don't understand how the antis can justify what they say to themselves. I mean it goes back to the Gun Free Zone parody video, is that really what they think?

paulhailes wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

paulhailes wrote:
I stopped listening 3/4th of the way through he was really annoying me, I can understand if he was trying to say don't condemn all of our officers because of one but I don't think that was what he was trying to say.

That certainly WASN'T what he was saying. He was saying it's all the fault of the legal CHL holders -- and those that pass laws allowing it.

Yah I should have said I know thats not what he was saying, I just really don't understand how the antis can justify what they say to themselves. I mean it goes back to the Gun Free Zone parody video, is that really what they think?

Yep! That's what they think. "Guns are dangerous. I am the only one professional enough in this room to handle this Glock 40."

sjfcontrol wrote:Yep! That's what they think. "Guns are dangerous. I am the only one professional enough that I know of in this room to handle this Glock 40."

fixed it for ya

terryg wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:Yep! That's what they think. "Guns are dangerous. I am the only one professional enough that I know of in this room to handle this Glock 40."

fixed it for ya

Yeah, I was working from (faulty) memory.

sjfcontrol wrote:

terryg wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:Yep! That's what they think. "Guns are dangerous. I am the only one professional enough that I know of in this room to handle this Glock 40."

fixed it for ya

Yeah, I was working from (faulty) memory.

That's ok - I just remember because I was thinking that pretty much ANYBODY in the room would be more qualified ...