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Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:31 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Strat9mm wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:We need to recall Cornyn.
Based upon what!?

Chas.
His refusal to even try.
Try what? Don't give general comments, please give specific details as to what would justify a recall.

Chas.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:40 pm
by APynckel
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Strat9mm wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:We need to recall Cornyn.
Based upon what!?

Chas.
His refusal to even try.
Try what? Don't give general comments, please give specific details as to what would justify a recall.

Chas.
1) not asking his constituents their opinion on the matter

2) when they gave him their position, refusing to abide by them.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:04 pm
by bizarrenormality
I can't get behind a recall but at this point I can't vote for him either.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:51 pm
by atticus
I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:58 pm
by APynckel
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:24 pm
by atticus
APynkel - does Texas have a recall system? I don't believe we do. Even if we don't, I don't think Texas voters will forget what Cornyn did.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:11 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Strat9mm wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:We need to recall Cornyn.
Based upon what!?

Chas.
His refusal to even try.
Try what? Don't give general comments, please give specific details as to what would justify a recall.

Chas.
1) not asking his constituents their opinion on the matter

2) when they gave him their position, refusing to abide by them.
Just as I thought, you can't give any specifics.

Chas.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:13 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:14 pm
by APynckel
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.
That he would vote to defund obamacare, then vote FOR cloture so that the dems would win, and he would get a political "no" vote on the final bill....... :grumble

You worry me chaz.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:22 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.
That he would vote to defund obamacare, then vote FOR cloture so that the dems would win, and he would get a political "no" vote on the final bill....... :grumble

You worry me chaz.
Please link to a post where Sen. Cornyn said he'd vote to defund Obamacase.

Chas.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:24 pm
by APynckel
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.
That he would vote to defund obamacare, then vote FOR cloture so that the dems would win, and he would get a political "no" vote on the final bill....... :grumble

You worry me chaz.
Please link to a post where Sen. Cornyn said he'd vote to defund Obamacase.

Chas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8kGuKsl28&edit=vd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:26 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.
That he would vote to defund obamacare, then vote FOR cloture so that the dems would win, and he would get a political "no" vote on the final bill....... :grumble

You worry me chaz.
Please link to a post where Sen. Cornyn said he'd vote to defund Obamacase.

Chas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8kGuKsl28&edit=vd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Not quite, now show me his vote to add funding back to the Senate bill.

Chas.

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:28 pm
by MikeHoncho
http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/friendsw ... 12722.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:29 pm
by APynckel
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.
That he would vote to defund obamacare, then vote FOR cloture so that the dems would win, and he would get a political "no" vote on the final bill....... :grumble

You worry me chaz.
Please link to a post where Sen. Cornyn said he'd vote to defund Obamacase.

Chas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8kGuKsl28&edit=vd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Not quite, now show me his vote to add funding back to the Senate bill.

Chas.
He voted FOR cloture.....

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/ ... care.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:30 pm
by APynckel
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
APynckel wrote:
atticus wrote:I was not aware we have recall for U.S. senators in Texas. I, for one, don't believe in recalls. I think we make our best judgment at election time. Our next judgment, as voters, comes at the time of the next election. I think a no-recall system promotes good representative government - we elect people we believe will use their best judgment during their term. And then we allow them to exercise that judgment. If, as in Cornyn's case, it turns out that the elected representative takes a stand on one or more issues that is so bad we don't want that person in office any more, then we can have it out at the next election campaign. That being said, I believe Cornyn is up for re-election in 2014. He may well draw a primary opponent over this Obamacare issue.
There should always be a "final option" if the person you elected outright lied to you about their intentions.
What lie did Cornyn tell?

Chas.
That he would vote to defund obamacare, then vote FOR cloture so that the dems would win, and he would get a political "no" vote on the final bill....... :grumble

You worry me chaz.
Please link to a post where Sen. Cornyn said he'd vote to defund Obamacase.

Chas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8kGuKsl28&edit=vd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Not quite, now show me his vote to add funding back to the Senate bill.

Chas.
He voted FOR cloture.....

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/ ... care.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Which he KNEW would result in a straight party line vote by the demorats to put the funding back in.