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Liberty wrote:While we tend to focus on the OC bill and the value, or the lack of it as you will. Its worthwhile to note that Campus carry if we get it through will be a major breakthrough, in furthering the cause of 308. I think that allowing campus carry and with the public observing that there has been no blood flowing on the classroom desktops. will make a bill like 308 might become an easier sell. next term. The university Bureaucrats. were a powerful force to overcome. Now beaten we can move on to the bigger goals.

Campus carry is a huge accomplishment, and will save lives. even if it is a baby step. It is a step forward. 10 years ago I would have thought this would be an impossible achievment. Today its within reach. Thanks to Charles and a few others on this forum who have done a tremendous amount of work

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

ELB wrote:I think he saying that HB308 is far more important and far-reaching in extending 2A rights than HB910, but the frenzy around open carry has elevated the glamorous but relatively minor progress over the substantive.

Very well said. Yes, I want HB910 or SB17 to pass, but the cost was very high. I'll be glad to see open-carry off the radar so we can push for HB308-type legislation. I'm working on a two-year campaign to get it passed in 2017. I don't want to die or retire from politics with this unfinished.

Chas.

jerry_r60 wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

ELB wrote:I think he saying that HB308 is far more important and far-reaching in extending 2A rights than HB910, but the frenzy around open carry has elevated the glamorous but relatively minor progress over the substantive.

Very well said. Yes, I want HB910 or SB17 to pass, but the cost was very high. I'll be glad to see open-carry off the radar so we can push for HB308-type legislation. I'm working on a two-year campaign to get it passed in 2017. I don't want to die or retire from politics with this unfinished.

Chas.

Is there no value at this point in calling the Homeland committee asking them advance HB308?

RoyGBiv wrote:FWIW, I sent the Gov and my House rep an email asking them to get behind HB 308.

Stole some of Charles' language about "OC will be nice, but 308 will save lives."

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RoyGBiv wrote:FWIW, I sent the Gov and my House rep an email asking them to get behind HB 308.

Stole some of Charles' language about "OC will be nice, but 308 will save lives."
FWIW... Received the following from the Gov. office yesterday.
Good to know that at least my opinion was tallied.

cowhow wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:FWIW, I sent the Gov and my House rep an email asking them to get behind HB 308.

Stole some of Charles' language about "OC will be nice, but 308 will save lives."
FWIW... Received the following from the Gov. office yesterday.
Good to know that at least my opinion was tallied.

That's a good idea. I did contact Collier and Burton earlier, but not the Gov. It's still a mystery to me why every CHL holder in Texas isn't beating down doors to get this bill passed. The sense I get is that not every CHL holder will use OC but we would all benefit from HB308. I realize it may have some sticking points for some, but there's no discussion or measurable movement of any kind at working toward a compromise to get it out of committee.

cowhow wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:FWIW, I sent the Gov and my House rep an email asking them to get behind HB 308.

Stole some of Charles' language about "OC will be nice, but 308 will save lives."
FWIW... Received the following from the Gov. office yesterday.
Good to know that at least my opinion was tallied.

That's a good idea. I did contact Collier and Burton earlier, but not the Gov. It's still a mystery to me why every CHL holder in Texas isn't beating down doors to get this bill passed. The sense I get is that not every CHL holder will use OC but we would all benefit from HB308. I realize it may have some sticking points for some, but there's no discussion or measurable movement of any kind at working toward a compromise to get it out of committee.

jerry_r60 wrote:A major reason is that Charles keeps us informed when it's helpful to start making calls. He gives us a "call to action". This bill is very important to him and he knows the inside workings in Austin and what's going on. I asked him if it would help for us to start making calls and he said if/when the time comes, he'll put out a call to action.

mr1337 wrote:

jerry_r60 wrote:A major reason is that Charles keeps us informed when it's helpful to start making calls. He gives us a "call to action". This bill is very important to him and he knows the inside workings in Austin and what's going on. I asked him if it would help for us to start making calls and he said if/when the time comes, he'll put out a call to action.

Aye, I was thinking about that this morning as well after seeing some of the comments, but I figured that Charles would let us know if and when we need to act, in order to be most effective.

v7a wrote:Did anyone watch the committee hearing today? Any interesting testimony?

joelamosobadiah wrote:

v7a wrote:Did anyone watch the committee hearing today? Any interesting testimony?

That shows it was left pending a month ago... Did they have more testimony today?

NotRPB wrote:HB 308 Committee Substitute
voted out of Homeland Security & Public Safety committee this morning 6 to 3

SEVERAL Other Firearms/Gun/House of Worship bills voted out of committee this morning
Either sent to floor or Calendars Committee

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