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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:38 pm
by Lumberjack98
Grrrrrrr!!!!!!! :evil:

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:49 pm
by Will938
I'm usually all about helping other states flex their rights, but in this case I have a sick curiosity as to how all these restrictions will affect crime. More the merry, send the refugees to other states.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:52 pm
by AEA
I see a booming underground market for non-microstamped replacement firing pins in Kalifornia!

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:33 pm
by Target1911
This ground-breaking law gives police officers a powerful tool to apprehend armed criminals and gang members before they strike again,�

Hmmmm.....
Did anyone think to inform the law makers that "GANG BANGERS and BGs" [/i]DONT REGISTERED GUNS DUUHHH

What a bunch of IDIOTS !!!!!!!

Not to mention.....how hard is it to change a firing pin?
What a whippin for the Law abiding citizens that do break a firing pin. How much will a replacement cost???


Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:42 pm
by boomerang
Most criminals don't get their weapons legally so it won't help catch MS13 and other gang members.

There is one type of shooting it will help California cops solve. Suppose a woman complains a dozen times over six months that some guy is stalking her but the police can't do anything, so his behavior continues to escalate and one night he breaks into her home at 2am. If she is forced to shoot him in self defense the brass will match her gun so there's no confusion.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:55 pm
by mcub
That could back fire, since LA has the more organized gangs,

Imagine, if the cases at the crimes where pilfered from ranges where police shoot. Put a couple rounds into your problem, pick up yours, and drop some cases from the range........

Just food for thought, this could create some seriuos problems for every one.

Time for me to get the auction site up :lol: http://www.trowdownbrass.com :lol:

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:13 pm
by KBCraig
jimlongley wrote:I would surely love to see the make, model, and serial number engraved on a firing pin.
It won't be in so many words, more like a hieroglyphic pattern of markings that can be decoded to reveal the make, model, and SN.

Here's a good article, including dubious feedback from the readers (including me), and a defense from the co-inventor:

http://www.unionleader.com/pda-article. ... ab10ddbe0a

cbr600 wrote:I wonder if this law applies to revolvers too.
No, for the obvious reasons.

Of course the reasons against the law for semi-autos are obvious, too. Didn't stop them from enacting it.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:22 pm
by Right2Carry
Revolvers will not be affected by this bill only Semi-automatics since they are the gun of choice of murders according to an article I read.

Its a stupid law and one that makes no sense at all, hence it will be law in kommiefornia.

It will make it easier for the BG's to frame good people

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:23 pm
by Supercat
All they will do is go to the range and pick up someones brass of the right caliber. And rig a shell catcher on their arm and do a throw down at the scene.
the cops will be chasing the good guy that got spoofed.

These people need to start thinking like a criminal and maybe they could catch a few.

Plus what happens when you break a firing pin or ejector etc..(a micro stamped part) do you now have to return your gun to the manufacturer and have a new stamped part installed? (I smell database)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:33 am
by PAR
Since the requirement doesn't go into effect until 2010, it will be interesting to see how many crimes are actually solved in 2011 - 2015; especially, given the fact that CA probably already has as many guns in circulation as any other state.

It also makes you wonder if at some point will they try to have a recall on certain semi's as they did went the found out that the CA complaint Walther P22 barrel extension could be removed and replaced with a threaded adaptor.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:12 am
by Wildscar
And so much for re-using brass casings in Kalifornia...

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:34 am
by Texas Armadillo
Edited... I was rambling.

Re: It will make it easier for the BG's to frame good people

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:56 am
by jimlongley
Supercat wrote:All they will do is go to the range and pick up someones brass of the right caliber. And rig a shell catcher on their arm and do a throw down at the scene.
the cops will be chasing the good guy that got spoofed.

These people need to start thinking like a criminal and maybe they could catch a few.

Plus what happens when you break a firing pin or ejector etc..(a micro stamped part) do you now have to return your gun to the manufacturer and have a new stamped part installed? (I smell database)
Or go to the range and swap parts, over and over and over, at different ranges.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:35 pm
by Photoman
No wonder everyone is leaving California.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:10 am
by age_ranger
There's some good points.............revolvers? Like there's no revolvers in crooks hands, right? Oh, and wildscar brought up a great point. What about reloaders? I guess they think thugs don't reload. Should ranges be required to destroy the brass to eliminate the possibility of someone using their marked brass? Replacement parts are going to be an issue. Is EBay going to ban the sales of gun parts because of this? I don't buy alot there, but EBay is handy for the occasional needed part.

What's the Governator doing out there!!!! This is definitely going to have a ripple effect. Gun makers are probably going ot pass the cost of this down to the consumers now.