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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:51 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
There are natural cures for toxicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTA
http://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=9762
Natural cures work wonders believe it or not
You can also do a juice fast/detox...I did one of those and after 3 days I had more energy than I had the day I got out of bootcamp
I digress
What about using
Pewter, I used to play BattleTech and they changed from lead miniatures to pewter..just about as heavy but no or highly reduced lead toxicity
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:04 pm
by jbirds1210
Molon_labe wrote:There are natural cures for toxicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTA
http://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=9762
Natural cures work wonders believe it or not
You can also do a juice fast/detox...I did one of those and after 3 days I had more energy than I had the day I got out of bootcamp
I digress
What about using
Pewter, I used to play BattleTech and they changed from lead miniatures to pewter..just about as heavy but no or highly reduced lead toxicity
This stuff can be dangeous and should be used under the direction of a physician. It is very possible for EDTA to zap other necessary vitamins and minerals from your body and cause harm.
Jason
A few minutes of reading produced this:
Potential Dangers
Source: http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WS ... dmtContent
Chelation may cause many severe side effects, including severe kidney damage, reduction of the body's ability to make new blood cells in the bone marrow, dangerously low blood pressure, fast heart rate, dangerously low calcium levels in the blood, increased risk of bleeding or blood clots (including interference with the effects of the blood-thinning drug warfarin [Coumadin]), immune reactions, abnormal heart rhythms, allergic reactions, blood sugar imbalances and convulsions. There have been reports of headache, fatigue, fever, nausea, vomiting, gastrointestinal upset, excessive thirst, sweating (diaphoresis), low white blood cell counts and low levels of blood platelets. People using chelation have had severe reactions in which they have stopped breathing. Death has been reported, although it is not clear if chelation therapy was the direct cause.
Avoid chelation therapy if you have heart, kidney or liver disease or any condition affecting blood cells or the immune system. Chelation should be avoided in pregnant or breast-feeding women and in children. Chelation may not be safe in anybody; speak with a qualified health provider to balance the risks and possible benefits.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:36 pm
by Stupid
Do you guys NOT wear gloves when cleaning guns, handling bulk ammo/bullets/brass and doing reloading (lead or non-lead)?
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:53 pm
by Mike1951
Never have.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:15 pm
by lrb111
Stupid wrote:Do you guys NOT wear gloves when cleaning guns, handling bulk ammo/bullets/brass and doing reloading (lead or non-lead)?
nope, and I used to bite split shot lead sinkers on to the fishing line too.
who would of thought I was living life in the fast lane....

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:22 pm
by Mike1951
Heck, when the only rifle I had was a Benjamin pellet rifle, I carried spare pellets in my mouth, cause it was faster than fooling with the can.
It didn't kill me, but some might say it affected me.
Also:
grew up in a house painted with lead paint
played with toys painted with lead paint
toys also had loose, small parts
used to love to play with the mercury from broken thermometers
cast lead bullets for a few years before getting lazy
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:20 pm
by mr surveyor
deleted by mr surveyor
didn't want to "get off topic"
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:29 pm
by Stupid
I still think wearing a pair of gloves when handling these things is a must.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:48 pm
by AFJailor
I've cleaned my M4 at work prolly 100-150 times now and never worn gloves not to mention fired countless round from half a dozen weapons in POORLY ventilated rooms and I've never had problems with lead poisoning.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:32 am
by dukalmighty
If you have ever reloaded bullets then youknow that trying to insert bullets in cases and cases in the shell plate with gloves on is not only really slow but impractical,as long as you don't suck on your fingers til after washing them you should be alright,I have noticed a receding hairline the last 30 years though
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:49 pm
by rspeir
I guess I don't see how your clothing would come into contact with lead from carrying a concealed weapon. All the bullets are contained within the gun and wouldn't be touching your clothing.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:12 pm
by iflyabeech
i used to chew pellet gun pellets growing up.. split shots too....ha
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:38 pm
by TEX
Magtech also makes a version of the solid copper bullet. Or you can purchase the DXP bullets from Barnes and custom load your own.
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:30 pm
by huaco
lawrnk wrote:About 16 years ago when a teenager I came across about 4 oz of mercury. I swear I played with it for 300 hours before someone told me how bad it is for you. I fully expect to go insane in my 50's.
About 50 years ago when I was almost a teenager my dad brought me a medicine bottle of mercury from work. I played with it, spilled it, made pennies shine like dimes with it, etc at home and at school. Teachers and students thought it was cool. No ill effects so far. We also melted lead to make fishing sinkers and on several occasions my parents took me to Sears to buy shoes and they x-rayed my feet to check the fit with equipment now called very dangerous. I guess I'm invincible.
I carry Corbon DPX rounds with all copper bullets in my 3AT but only because they work well and pack a serious punch.
Re: Solid copper bullets
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:16 pm
by brewster
Taurus now makes a Barnes bullet in .45 ACP for $15 for 20 rounds....about half the price of Cor-Bon. Not +P, but geez, it's a .45 and expands to almost and inch. I think not having the +P will suffice...
Don't know about other calibers, though.