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Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:48 am
by longtooth
Venus Pax wrote:I pasted a link to an e-mail and sent this to my friends & relatives.
Aside from his irreverence with the Almighty's name, it was well-written and revealed what happens to people that are simply living life and minding their own business.
It amazes me how many people do this as a way of life.
On the way to church that morning & talk like this.
I will never understand it.
They would never go to a friends house & use that friend's name that way.

Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:56 am
by KC5AV
Oh well, at least he was on his way to church. Maybe there's hope for him.
I wonder if he only goes to make his wife happy.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:36 am
by Rokyudai
I was under the impression the writer was quoting the bad guy (...he snarled) to further demonstrate his ruthlessness (and disrespect) for the writer and his daughter. Did I misread?
Edited: I apologize. I missed that little snippet expressing his fear that they may have wanted his daughter. Although I respect where you are coming from, I know that it does reflect the intense outrage he had at the time, perhaps under duress (understandably) and maybe out of character using/thinking offensive language.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:41 am
by KC5AV
Whether quoting the bad guy, or not. It wasn't necessary. It would have been just as effective to state that the guy was cursing... at least IMHO.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:45 am
by Rokyudai
Nothing to see here....

Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:07 pm
by longtooth
Thank you sir.

Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:42 pm
by Venus Pax
KC5AV wrote:Whether quoting the bad guy, or not. It wasn't necessary. It would have been just as effective to state that the guy was cursing... at least IMHO.
I don't have a problem with him quoting the bad guy, and I don't have a problem with run-of-the-mill wordy-derds. I
do have a problem with a believer using the Lord's name without reverence. There are many ways to convey strong emotion without giving God an unflattering last name.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:47 pm
by snubbylover
longtooth wrote:Venus Pax wrote:I pasted a link to an e-mail and sent this to my friends & relatives.
Aside from his irreverence with the Almighty's name, it was well-written and revealed what happens to people that are simply living life and minding their own business.
It amazes me how many people do this as a way of life.
On the way to church that morning & talk like this.
I will never understand it.
They would never go to a friends house & use that friend's name that way.

I think the referance was made by the BD. Excuse me, BG not BD
MY mistake. I completely missed the use of language by the author.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:28 am
by Bevotex
My take is that he took care of his daughter. What he says or writes is between him and the man upstairs...
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:43 am
by stevie_d_64
"Through church and over the next few days I was perplexed. Why would a man of my stature, a fit six foot one, be chosen as prey by two criminals? I could not understand it. Those kind of things happened to the elderly, women, the weak."
I came to the conclusion years ago that when I heard the old saying, "Don't go looking for trouble!"...
The conclusion I have made since then that it is "trouble that finds you these days"...
Its unfortunate, and it is a sign of the times, where anyone with criminal intent, whether it is a hardened and seasoned criminal, or just a person looking for a quick "score" may cross your path anytime, anywhere...
Which should give us a good lesson in where and when we should be prepared to meet that threat regardless of hemming and hawing over the reasons for why "you" may be considered an easy mark...
This man did a good job, and it had nothing to do with whether a persons life was worth less that a piece of property...We've seen this time and time again, and this type of crime (or whatever you want to call it) is not likely to stop anytime soon...
It does kinda stink when most of the time you have to keep your head on a swivle...But that is the world we live in...
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:38 am
by Venus Pax
stevie_d_64 wrote:
It does kinda stink when most of the time you have to keep your head on a swivle...But that is the world we live in...
I suspect the world has always been this way, it's just that we're more aware now--we have access to information more than we did in the past.
MIL & FIL were over on Saturday for a visit. They brought our great-nephew with them. He carries a GameBoy with him often. It keeps him occupied in vehicles or waiting rooms.
I told my MIL about this so that she would be more watchful, and so she would tell my neice as well.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:52 am
by DoubleJ
now that the thread is back on topic...
My step-daughter lives with a Nintendo DS. it's quite the little machine! I could certainly envision someone targeting her, as she walks around the apt dump (complex).
I wonder,

at pre-teen, what defensive things she could do. but that's another topic for another thread.
She asked me the other day why I always stand at the back of the truck while she and her mother get in. I responded to the effect of "just keepin' an eye out," but I think this article is a perfect example of said things of which to keep an eye out for.
Perhaps a stop at McDonald's on the way out of the store to perhaps wait out the would have been a good tactic.
wait'em out, scope'em out, maybe even let them know you're watching them.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:14 pm
by thejtrain
Reading that story gave me the heart-pounding shakes with goosebumps, too. His keeping the focus on his Little Girl was what got to me. I'm much more fearful of something happening to my boys or my wife than I am of something happening to me alone.
I really hate to send my wife stories like this (I don't want her to think I'm just a fearmonger and trying to scare/manipulate her into learning to shoot/carrying - she won't stand for that), but this one might make me break my rule. Maybe I can just summarize it and present it to her as a "I read this story and it went something like this", but reading this guy's words might have a greater impact than just hearing my summation of them.
JT
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:42 pm
by fenster
another incident in a Walmart parking lot:
http://www.koco.com/news/15526190/detail.html
apologies if this is already posted elsewhere.
Re: An Encounter At Wal-Mart
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:45 pm
by locknload
dukalmighty wrote:I gotta give him credit for his situational awareness,even tho he's a big strong man he observed something that seemd out of line and continued to observe until it became apparent he was being targeted,then he formulated a quick defense and ruined their plans.I being handicapped feel like i have a big red target on my back daily,I'm always in condition orange,My balance stinks,and I cannot run or move quick,all somebody has to do is get behind me grab my wallet and push me and i'm eating concrete,but as soon as i can get in position to draw game over.People have been killed over tennis shoes,I have to be of a mindset ,not if but when and keep scanning the lot and people lurking or closing in close enough proximity to be a threat,oh yeah if it's 95 degrees out and somebodys got their hoodie hiding their head i'm at condition red
I, too, walk with a limp from past auto accidents, and I've had a close call at our local Wal-Mart that is just off the freeway. I think the proximity to the freeway is a frustration, because the BG's can harm you and be gone before the LEO's arrive. Had it not been for an alert security guard at that same Wal-Mart, my neighbor's Granddaughter would have been snatched and taken to Mexico by coyotes to work the cocaine fields and plants. Her Mom is now getting her CHL, at my suggestion. We talked for over an hour on my front porch, and she wept and got it off her chest.
Our society is breaking down, and those who don't or won't believe/understand that will be the next victims. What disturbs me the most is the absolute, deafening silence in our local papers. They refuse to report these stories, because of political correctness, but let a cop or City Councilman sneeze, and it's front page news!

Our Zip Code was issued over 400 CHL's last year ... the highest for any Zip Code in Texas. In addition, Statewide, the highest number of CHL's went to those in their 60's, next highest to those in their mid to late 50's. That ought to be telling us something about how the silent, greying, majority is really thinking.
As far as Wal-Mart goes, I'm declining to go there much anymore. I think their low prices are a draw for folks, who are more inclined to prey on others, to put it nicely. Having been the object of an incident there, myself, I'm thinking that it is better to pay a little more and mingle with a higher class of folks, and hopefully, be a bit safer. The best gun fight is the one you don't have. Don't know who said that, but I totally agree!
To the guy in the story, I don't like the use of my Lord's name as a curse word, (don't offend Him like that anymore) but you did a great job!
