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Re: Question about handguns from a noob.
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:14 pm
by TexasComputerDude
rm9792 wrote:Used guns are a hard thing for a "noob" to buy as they wont know what to look for. Take a knowledgeable friend or get a smith to look over.
ugh, unfortunately most of my friends are liberals and scared of guns and out of all my normal friends, I'm the most knowledgeable about firearms lol.
Re: Question about handguns from a noob.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:14 pm
by DParker
TexasComputerDude wrote:bdickens wrote:I notice you didn't mention any feed problems with the Glock....

haha, I love my 1911 but my glock feels like it could save my life one day. I've just had to many malfunctions with my 1911 to consider it safe for duty.
but to be fair, half of the malfunctions were due to me being a jackass shooting at rabbits like a mad man. We go out to roswell, nm and go out into the fields and everyone else brings ar15's and ak47's and I bring my 1911. I may not get as many rabbits as them, but I get a couple and its alot more satisfying to throw a hail of lead out at tiny rabbit and hit it. Its a tad bit expensive though. Oh, and my 1911 doesn't like being fired above the horizontal. I was firing at rabbits up the side of a mountain and after the first 2 shots it stovepiped. actually all the malfunctions have been stovepiping. and i think it was due to my shooting style.
The glock I'm more professional with so no problems.
I'd respectfully request that you rethink this particular activity...or at least refrain from advertising it. From your description (which I hope is not accurate) what you and your friends are doing casts the rest of us in an unfavorable light, which is something we definitely don't need in today's battle over retaining our 2nd Amendment rights. Shooting an animal is something that should be done in an ethical and humane manner, and simply blasting away at rabbits with ridiculously over-powered rounds doesn't quite qualify. Why are you shooting them? Just to be killing (or wounding) something? If you're hunting them to eat them then your choices of calibers are quite poor, and your habit of "throw[ing] a hail of lead out at a tiny rabbit" from a 1911 sounds like nothing but an exercise in blood-lust.
I say this as an avid hunter who's primary ethical rules (after safety and legal concerns, of course) are:
1) Never kill simply for the sake of killing. I harvest primarily for use as food.
2) Take every reasonable step to ensure that the kill is as clean and humane as is practical. I want to take one shot that hits the animal in a vital organ (or organs) and dispatches it with a minimum of suffering.
I want to continue enjoying my passtime, and want my kids, their kids, etc. to be able to pursue it as well. And quite frankly, the image presented to non-hunters (who also vote) of a bunch of young yahoos using little furry creatures for nothing but target practice isn't helping those prospects any.
Re: Question about handguns from a noob.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:35 pm
by TexasComputerDude
DParker wrote:TexasComputerDude wrote:bdickens wrote:I notice you didn't mention any feed problems with the Glock....

haha, I love my 1911 but my glock feels like it could save my life one day. I've just had to many malfunctions with my 1911 to consider it safe for duty.
but to be fair, half of the malfunctions were due to me being a jackass shooting at rabbits like a mad man. We go out to roswell, nm and go out into the fields and everyone else brings ar15's and ak47's and I bring my 1911. I may not get as many rabbits as them, but I get a couple and its alot more satisfying to throw a hail of lead out at tiny rabbit and hit it. Its a tad bit expensive though. Oh, and my 1911 doesn't like being fired above the horizontal. I was firing at rabbits up the side of a mountain and after the first 2 shots it stovepiped. actually all the malfunctions have been stovepiping. and i think it was due to my shooting style.
The glock I'm more professional with so no problems.
I'd respectfully request that you rethink this particular activity...or at least refrain from advertising it. From your description (which I hope is not accurate) what you and your friends are doing casts the rest of us in an unfavorable light, which is something we definitely don't need in today's battle over retaining our 2nd Amendment rights. Shooting an animal is something that should be done in an ethical and humane manner, and simply blasting away at rabbits with ridiculously over-powered rounds doesn't quite qualify. Why are you shooting them? Just to be killing (or wounding) something? If you're hunting them to eat them then your choices of calibers are quite poor, and your habit of "throw[ing] a hail of lead out at a tiny rabbit" from a 1911 sounds like nothing but an exercise in blood-lust.
I say this as an avid hunter who's primary ethical rules (after safety and legal concerns, of course) are:
1) Never kill simply for the sake of killing. I harvest primarily for use as food.
2) Take every reasonable step to ensure that the kill is as clean and humane as is practical. I want to take one shot that hits the animal in a vital organ (or organs) and dispatches it with a minimum of suffering.
I want to continue enjoying my passtime, and want my kids, their kids, etc. to be able to pursue it as well. And quite frankly, the image presented to non-hunters (who also vote) of a bunch of young yahoos using little furry creatures for nothing but target practice isn't helping those prospects any.
I agree 100% on not killing anything for the sake of killing, thats why I usually only deer hunt. We shoot these rabbits because they are overrunning our ranch. The little things are EVERYWHERE. Some of them are getting to be the size of dogs. But I see your point.
Re: Question about handguns from a noob.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:40 pm
by DParker
TexasComputerDude wrote:I agree 100% on not killing anything for the sake of killing, thats why I usually only deer hunt. We shoot these rabbits because they are overrunning our ranch. The little things are EVERYWHERE. Some of them are getting to be the size of dogs. But I see your point.
Maybe you should consider inviting some well-behaved, shotgun-equipped rabbit hunters out to help you with your bunny infestation. I'm sure we (er, I mean...you and they) could arrive at some mutually beneficial arrangement on the matter.
Re: Question about handguns from a noob.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:49 pm
by TexasComputerDude
DParker wrote:TexasComputerDude wrote:I agree 100% on not killing anything for the sake of killing, thats why I usually only deer hunt. We shoot these rabbits because they are overrunning our ranch. The little things are EVERYWHERE. Some of them are getting to be the size of dogs. But I see your point.
Maybe you should consider inviting some well-behaved, shotgun-equipped rabbit hunters out to help you with your bunny infestation. I'm sure we (er, I mean...you and they) could arrive at some mutually beneficial arrangement on the matter.
lol, I might have to do that. and to be honest, I didn't really shoot the 1911 unless one ran out from under the truck or were REALLY close. We were going for long range target practice. I don't think a shotgun could touch them, they run before we get within shotgun range.
I don't even know whats bringing them to the ranch, unless the like eating cactus and loco weed.
Re: Question about handguns from a noob.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:59 pm
by DParker
TexasComputerDude wrote:DParker wrote:TexasComputerDude wrote:I agree 100% on not killing anything for the sake of killing, thats why I usually only deer hunt. We shoot these rabbits because they are overrunning our ranch. The little things are EVERYWHERE. Some of them are getting to be the size of dogs. But I see your point.
Maybe you should consider inviting some well-behaved, shotgun-equipped rabbit hunters out to help you with your bunny infestation. I'm sure we (er, I mean...you and they) could arrive at some mutually beneficial arrangement on the matter.
lol, I might have to do that. and to be honest, I didn't really shoot the 1911 unless one ran out from under the truck or were REALLY close. We were going for long range target practice. I don't think a shotgun could touch them, they run before we get within shotgun range.
I don't even know whats bringing them to the ranch, unless the like eating cactus and loco weed.
OK. Then amend my previous suggestion to read, "scoped rimfire rifle-equipped rabbit hunters".