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Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:24 pm
by DoubleJ
Rules of Engagement is hilarious. I think Patrick Warburton is comic gold.

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:54 pm
by DoubleActionCHL
In a case where an assailant clearly has a weapon and has possibly discharged his weapon, you, as a citizen, are not required to warn, call, yell, whistle or even mumble. The rules are quite different for police officers, and (several have conveyed to me) that the requirement of vocalizing certain commands to a perpetrator while escalating their levels of force can be quite distracting for the officer. The concern is the officer may focus on his commands to the degree that he neglects other procedures that may put his life in jeopardy.

Personally, if I found myself in that situation, my focus would be on my safety and not the rights of the perp. I won't be yelling any warnings.

Now, the situation is quite different if the actor hasn't fully revealed himself as a threat. Provided you have both time and distance, verbal warnings are preferable, although not required by law. Once the threat has established itself, however, you take whatever force necessary and no warnings are required.

And no, IANAL.

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:31 pm
by Furyataurus
IMO, someone already shooting at others has forefitted their life. I'd do my best to stop the shooting as best I could and try to save as many lives as I can. Doesn't matter to me where the shooter is facing as long as I win. IMO lasers are a great addition for a pistol, esp. if your shooting beyond 15 yds and under stress. Too bad I can't find a holster for my USP 9 with a laser attached to conceal carry. I might have to go with a Kimber with Crimson Trace laser grip :cool: or another brand like Sig or a Glock with lasermax bore laser sight.

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:17 pm
by KaiserB
Laneman wrote:...The Texas law allows you to use deadly force against the gunman if you reasonbly believe you have to do so to protect yourself or others from the use or even attempted use of deadly force (shooting or attempting to shoot) directed at you or other people. Nothing in the law says you have to announce yourself. ...
The CHL instructor I had for my course said (as part of the class) "The Police are required to announce themselves, CHLs are not. Just shoot"

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:48 pm
by LedJedi
bang! bang! bang! bang! bang! bang! bang!
bang! bang! bang! bang!
bang!

"stop! or I will reload."

:)

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:08 pm
by BrassBullets
My wife even giggled at that one Ledjedi :hurry:

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:13 pm
by agbullet2k1
You owe me a new, cokeless screen Led.

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:55 pm
by RiverRat
LedJedi wrote:bang! bang! bang! bang! bang! bang! bang!
bang! bang! bang! bang!
bang!

"stop! or I will reload."

:)
LedJedi, That was great! Thanks for the Diet Coke nose rinse :smilelol5: . Mrs RiverRat (cleaning her 1911) is still laughing, at me and your comment.
"rlol"

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:41 am
by bdickens
You owe me a keyboard!

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:36 am
by Excaliber
I might have to go with a Kimber with Crimson Trace laser grip
Fine choice. It's good kit and works really well on an Ultra Carry.

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:45 am
by billfromtx
tboesche wrote:#1 Rule of Engagement"..............

WIN THE ENGAGEMENT!

:fire :fire :fire :fire
:iagree:

Re: Rules of engagement

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:45 am
by SRizz21
I agree I don't think there is anything that says you need to try to give a verbal warning. That will take more time and could allow him to fire off more rounds, harming more people. If he is firing it is within your right to protect yourself and others.