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Re: Benelli M4 and the law
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:26 pm
by lunchbox
lunchbox wrote:KinnyLee wrote:lunchbox wrote:
so wait do i have this right it only pertains to imported guns???
You are correct sir.
sweet I don't have to worry about my winchester.
is it just me or is this a dumb relatively unknown law

Dumb law indeed. I still love those Benelli M4s though. They are like 1911s. Once you got hooked, there is no turning back. Hehe.

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im sure they are nice but way out of my price range
Re: Benelli M4 and the law
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:30 pm
by KinnyLee
Hehe, when it comes down to it, I still prefer my Remington 870.

Re: Benelli SBE II and the law
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:33 pm
by texasag93
.......so if a Benelli Super Black Eagle II (does not have a pistol grip), then a mag extension is legal?
Texasag
Re: Benelli M4 and the law
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:51 am
by Max100
Unfortunately, there is a Federal restriction on all imported shotguns imported after 1990. It is illegal to add a mag tube extension increasing the mag tube capacity past 5 rounds. If you do you have to follow the law of 10 US made parts.
US CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Part 178.39
§ 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.
(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.
...Part C reads:
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates
ATF takes this law a step further and applies it to pump shotguns as well as semi-autos.
Benelli shotguns with pistol grip butt stocks are allowed to be imported into the US as "sporting" firearms because the pistol grip and the butt stock are one piece. If the pistol grip was removable, they would not allow it to be imported as a "sporting" firearm. This interpretation by BATF goes to the point that they consider a shotgun to be non-sporting if it has a detachable pistol grip that protrudes beneath the receiver of the shotgun.
Adding a magazine extension that would increase your capacity beyond 5 rounds would not be allowed under this same interpretation of the "sporting" criteria. The only way this would be legal would be to assemble the gun in the US and do it with the requisite 10 US made parts from the above list.
This is why the FN SLP shotguns are now being assembled in the US (South Carolina) now.
Having said all of the above, I know of no one who has ever been prosecuted for adding a pistol grip or magazine extension to their imported pump or semi-auto shotgun. The ATF doesn't care. Go to any 3 gun match and you will find imported shotguns with tube extensions.
GC
Re: Benelli M4 and the law
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:58 am
by htxred
Max100 wrote:Unfortunately, there is a Federal restriction on all imported shotguns imported after 1990. It is illegal to add a mag tube extension increasing the mag tube capacity past 5 rounds. If you do you have to follow the law of 10 US made parts.
US CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Part 178.39
§ 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.
(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.
...Part C reads:
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates
ATF takes this law a step further and applies it to pump shotguns as well as semi-autos.
Benelli shotguns with pistol grip butt stocks are allowed to be imported into the US as "sporting" firearms because the pistol grip and the butt stock are one piece. If the pistol grip was removable, they would not allow it to be imported as a "sporting" firearm. This interpretation by BATF goes to the point that they consider a shotgun to be non-sporting if it has a detachable pistol grip that protrudes beneath the receiver of the shotgun.
Adding a magazine extension that would increase your capacity beyond 5 rounds would not be allowed under this same interpretation of the "sporting" criteria. The only way this would be legal would be to assemble the gun in the US and do it with the requisite 10 US made parts from the above list.
This is why the FN SLP shotguns are now being assembled in the US (South Carolina) now.
Having said all of the above, I know of no one who has ever been prosecuted for adding a pistol grip or magazine extension to their imported pump or semi-auto shotgun. The ATF doesn't care. Go to any 3 gun match and you will find imported shotguns with tube extensions.
GC
so i should be good with my FN SLP right? i just recently bought it so im going to assume its US assembled, i shouldnt have any problems adding a pistol grip/collaspable stock?