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What if Texas explicitly designated all willing adult US citizens with a permanent address in Texas and no violent felony convictions to be members of the Texas State Militia, expected to keep firearms and ammunition at their homes in defense of themselves and the State?

All adults, 18 and over in the state of Texas as militia?
Show me the petition, time's wasting.

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I think that's essentially how the Texas Rangers got started

Doug.38PR wrote:^


I think that's essentially how the Texas Rangers got started

Close but not quite.

I am reading a book on the history of the Rangers through 1900. Very interesting. I will do a review when finished.

It also goes into a little detail about the nasty 2A infringement that went on in Texas in the name of law and order.

As I recall in the book it never prevented anyone from being killed then either.

Anygunanywhere

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Sounds like Carpetbag rule during Reconstruction. Tis how a lot of these gun control laws got started. I think the Rangers were disbanded and replaced with a State Police.

If I remember right. The Texas Rangers started out as sort of a civilian defense patrol against Comanches and Bandits while Texas was a colony of Mexico as the Mexican army was almost non existant in Texas at the time.

The book wouldn't be The Texas Rangers by Walter Webb Prescott?

Doug.38PR wrote:

kidder014 wrote:http://www.petitiononline.com/TXRKBA/petition.html

Hey did you just put that together?

Way ta go. I just signed it

I've signed these online petitions before...how do they ultimately get to the state capitol or governor's office? Does somebody from that website shoot them an E mail after obtaining enough signatures?

I signed it as well (#28).

Doug.38PR wrote:^
Sounds like Carpetbag rule during Reconstruction. Tis how a lot of these gun control laws got started. I think the Rangers were disbanded and replaced with a State Police.

If I remember right. The Texas Rangers started out as sort of a civilian defense patrol against Comanches and Bandits while Texas was a colony of Mexico as the Mexican army was almost non existant in Texas at the time.

The book wouldn't be The Texas Rangers by Walter Webb Prescott?

The Texas Rangers: Wearing the Cinco Peso, 1821-1900 by Mike Cox. I picked up an autographed one at a bookstore in Fredercksburg.

The carpetbaggers infringement was mentioned, but the Rangers and other Texas lawmen took up the banning of carrying firearms inside town limits. Also, Texas governors assumed that since the Comanches and frontier was disappearing then wearing of firearms was not necessary.

Anygunanywhere

Ahh. The sort of Wyatt Earp kinda junk. Kinda surprises me

Doug.38PR wrote:

kidder014 wrote:http://www.petitiononline.com/TXRKBA/petition.html

Hey did you just put that together?

Way ta go. I just signed it

I've signed these online petitions before...how do they ultimately get to the state capitol or governor's office? Does somebody from that website shoot them an E mail after obtaining enough signatures?

Yes, I got it put together.

Once it has enough signatures to make an impact, I will print an official copy of the petition and deliver it to multiple sources to hopefully get the ball rolling. Help me out though, it needs a lot more signatures to make any sort of impact. Forward the link to anyone you know, gun owner or not, that would be willing to support this type of legislation.

I've forwarded it to as many people as I know in Texas. How many signatures are "enough" 500? 800? 1000? 10,000?

Doug.38PR wrote:Considering that we have Obama Bin Laden as "our" new president and the way the House and Senate are these days...preparations should be made. Texans and other true red American states should fall back on their governor and state legislatures to pass resolutions that will refuse to enforce any gun legislation (assault weapons ban, chl ban, gun confiscation etc.) within the borders of that state and will even protect citizens of such states from efforts of federal officials arresting them if they attempt to break and enter or harrass people of Texas.

Unfortunately, all the feds have to do is withhold those precious Highway dollars and the Texas legislature has a history of bending over and taking it.

TDDude wrote:

Doug.38PR wrote:Considering that we have Obama Bin Laden as "our" new president and the way the House and Senate are these days...preparations should be made. Texans and other true red American states should fall back on their governor and state legislatures to pass resolutions that will refuse to enforce any gun legislation (assault weapons ban, chl ban, gun confiscation etc.) within the borders of that state and will even protect citizens of such states from efforts of federal officials arresting them if they attempt to break and enter or harrass people of Texas.

Unfortunately, all the feds have to do is withhold those precious Highway dollars and the Texas legislature has a history of bending over and taking it.

Oh, please don't get me started on highway funds. Listening to TXDOT, you'd think we have zero federal highway funds.

kidder014 wrote:http://www.petitiononline.com/TXRKBA/petition.html

I think this would be more effective if it were more clear. Suggestions (from someone who's not doing the work, I appreciate):
1. a link to the Florida statute text
2. A little more explanation of how this works. To my small pea brain, it sounds like we're trying to make a law that says another law cannot be overwritten or overruled by the Texas or US gov't, or something along that line. That sounds legally impossible, but maybe the link mentioned in #1 above would help me understand it.

Thanks!

Clarification:
It's not passing a law that we are shooting for. It's a resolution to refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws or laws that are a threat to the people of the State of Texas. In effect nullifying such a law. What it boils down to is the State of Texas will enforce the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution intended to protect the fundamental right of self-defense.

I do agree the petition needs a little more specifics. Like assult weapons ban provisions (limiting high cap magazines or certain kinds of guns or ammunition) But this is an excellent start. On the other hand, the second amendment means what it says, all these "specifics" are all bundled into it.

As for the highways....well, not to get off the subject, but all we really need is funds to maintain existing highways. (IOW we don't need anymore interstates or international corridors or even anymore federal or state highways.) And I mean real maintenence...not tearing up good roads and patching them back up every 2 years just to give illegals work.

Here is what I sent out via email to all my friends and family.

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http://www.petitiononline.com/TXRKBA/petition.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - Online Petition (your information will not be shared)



Please take two minutes and sign this petition. With the upcoming leadership change we are about to see in Washington it will be no surprise if the new government tries to start a firearms registration policy in the US. This would raise the price of firearms, infringe on the right that our veterans fought for, and be the government’s first step towards confiscation. In the beginning of England’s gun grabbing the government called for registration. The only thing it provided was a list of firearms so that later on the government could come seize them. Now the people of that country are left defenseless against criminals or an oppressive government. The spark that ignited the American Revolution was when the British marched on Concord to seize the firearms and ammunition held there by our forefathers. They knew that as long as the people of this country held arms that they could not rule as they pleased and the very same people would have to rely on their government for all their protection. Now we have a new president who believes that “reasonable restrictions” will somehow help our crime rate. However the laws he has enacted in Chicago have done nothing but caused crime to soar in that city.



Some Obama quotes concerning his position on Gun Control:


“I am consistently on record and will continue to on record as opposing concealed carry” (Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004)

“…just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right…” (2008 Philadelphia primary debate)

“I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.” (Illinois Senate Debate #3: BO vs. Alan Keyes, 10/21/2004)

“I’ll continue to be in favor of handgun law registration requirements and licensing requirements for training.” (Chicago Defender, 7/5/2001)





This petition will ask that if gun registration is passed Texas will nullify the law which is our right to do. Florida already has such a law in place and other states are considering it as well. Remember by passing these laws we will show the federal government in Washington that we will not be pushed over by an oppressive government.



Please join the NRA, GOA, TSRA, or all three! Remember the NRA was the group that cost the democrats their control of Congress in 1994. IT was the first time since 1946 that the Republican part won a majority of the votes in Congress. Membership is cheap, your rights are not! I am a life member of all three.



"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” -Thomas Jefferson

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” – James Madison



GUN CONTROL IS NOT ABOUT GUNS, IT’S ABOUT CONTROL.



Please forward my words to as many people as you can.



Thanks,

Gregory T. White