Obama Wants More Gun Restrictions

[The Annoyed Man]

atxgun, I apologize if there was something crude in the video. I guess I forgot about that when I posted it.

Mike1951, I honestly did not post this as "another alarmist thread." We all know we're in for 4-8 years of hard times as gun owners. Only the matter of degree is in question. That being said, I really did mean it when I said, "For your "amusement," I present the following." Call it black humor, but I meant that humorously, not meaning to be alarmist. The thread title is taken from the YouTube video title.

[Mike1951]

The thread title is taken from the YouTube video title.

That certainly explains it. I must confess that I watched it recently when I got it in an email and did not rewatch it for this thread.

I seem to be alone in this line of thinking. Apparently anything that gets people riled up is good, whether there has been any actual action against us or not.

[anygunanywhere]

I trust no one in Washington as far as I can throw them. They deserve no chances, least of all HUSSEIN obama. He is not even a citizen.

Anygunanywhere

And McCain was born in the panama canal zone. Just sayin. Would you be complaining about this if he were president-elect, or is he gun friendly enough that you're allowed to overlook such things?

There is no question about McCain's citizenship as his status is supported by what the laws are when a child is born to parents who are citizens outside the US.

McCain is no real "friend" of gun owners either.

Those who choose to ignore the anointed one's lack of proof of citizenship are "ovrlooking" matters of importance.

Anygunanywhere

[The Annoyed Man]

The thread title is taken from the YouTube video title.

That certainly explains it. I must confess that I watched it recently when I got it in an email and did not rewatch it for this thread.

I seem to be alone in this line of thinking. Apparently anything that gets people riled up is good, whether there has been any actual action against us or not.

I don't think you're alone, but truly, that is not how I took the video. I thought it was an amusing and wicked satire, and that's the spirit in which I posted it.

[Texian]

I, for one, would prefer that alarmist threads not be posted until there is actual movement by Obama, his cabinet, or Congress.

By this time, we all know that all three are in favor of more and stricter gun laws. But I have seen no mention that it is part of his initial plans. He has the economy and job issues to deal with, as well as national security.

When it is mentioned or when a new bill is submitted, then we should try to motivate people.

So many of these threads amount to crying wolf.

This particular link is a slam at gun control so I have no idea how it relates to "Obama Wants More Gun Restrictions".

The Obama transition website refers to their "Gun Ban" plans as "a comprehensive and detailed policy agenda." Make no mistake: if they can ban one gun, they can ban any gun. Remember that DC, even after the Heller decision now refers to a semi-auto pistol as a "prohibited machine gun" and still refuses to allow the residents of the district to keep any operable firearms for self-defense. BTW, any gun that is child proof would be useless for self-defense.

I don't believe that they will be too busy with the war and the economy to immediately implement their gun control agenda. These bills have been written and ready to introduce for a long time and will probably sail through the congress and past the presidents desk at warp speed.


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The Agenda

President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden have developed innovative approaches to challenge the status quo in Washington and to bring about the kind of change America needs.

The Obama Administration has a comprehensive and detailed policy agenda.

* Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

[anygunanywhere]

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Where is that barf smiley when you need it?

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[Mike1951]

I give up! I tried to make an argument against fear mongering by posting premature and inflammatory material.

I'll repeat what I said a few threads ago. I guess anything is good if it gets the natives stirred up.

I have never doubted that bills will be filed. But I also think Obama may be smart enough not to fulfill many of his campaign promises.

[Oldgringo]

I was about to post this on my facebook account but then when I previewed the link and saw the description the YouTube poster had given it I quickly clicked back.

We all have our reasons to not like Obama. As was already covered this video doesn't really have anything to do with him anyway, but:

When you're talking to friends or whomever about politics PLEASE do not emphasis his middle name as if it were some kind of qualification to what ever point you are trying to make. It will just turn off any potential channel for audience as much as it would if you state "the black-guy president-elect".

If you really feel he's a terrorist b/c his middle name is what it is, well for one I feel sorry for you, but beyond that you should just keep it to yourself and make intelligent well articulated arguments. Keep fear mongering and race baiting out of it.

Edit: This reply isn't directed to anyone's response that was posted on this forum, just to be clear. At the same time it is directed at everyone reading it as something I think we all need to keep in mind when trying to convert people from the dark side.

Bacack Hussein Obama chose his first, middle and last name. I didn't choose my name, did you choose yours?

[flintknapper]

No doubt you are aware of this one then:
Media reports say President-elect Barack Obama has selected Eric Holder as his Attorney General, and that Holder may already have accepted the offer. Holder, as Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno during the Clinton Administration, said that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right, but instead protects the right to have a firearm when serving with a militia. After leaving office, Holder stuck to that assertion when he signed Janet Reno's brief to the Supreme Court in the Heller case, which stated, "The Second Amendment does not protect firearms possession or use that is unrelated to participation in a well-regulated militia."

Yes, sir. As I stated, we all know where his cabinet, Congress, and the holy one will stand on 2nd Amerndment.

But I still advocate not playing Chicken Little until there is a specific threat. We just had the opportunity to make a general statement about politicians' beliefs and we failed miserably.

Then I submit you will be 3 steps behind the inevitable.

[Texian]

I . . . think Obama may be smart enough not to fulfill many of his campaign promises.

The quotes in my post are not campaign promises. These are posted in Mr. Obama's new transition website. He now has the job. This is what he now says that he is going to do with his mandate. Our job is to make known to our elected representatives what we expect them to do and to tell them early and often. In two years if they have not listened to us we have the opportunity to choose new ones.

This is not fear-mongering! Mr. Obama has consistently presented an anti-gun agenda for most his public life. He chose the man who authored the Clinton AWB for his VP. He is in the process of selecting a cabinet and so far has chosen and is leaning toward choosing only individuals who are anti-gun. If in the unlikely event he should change course on this issue and defend second amendment rights, I will be one of the first to commend him for it.

[The Annoyed Man]

The inconsistencies of his position are remarkable. He thinks the 2nd is an individual right, but he thinks that local government has the right to deny that right. Perhaps he also thinks that it is the right of local governments to deny the right of free speech? ...or that it is the right of local governments to deny the vote to people of color? Etc., etc., etc.

[atxgun]

Those who choose to ignore the anointed one's lack of proof of citizenship are "ovrlooking" matters of importance.

Anygunanywhere

To be clear I think Obama's birth status is as questionable as McCain's. I think you can at least concede they're both very controversial. While you and I may not want to overlook these matters the unfortunate situation is 1) the system is and 2) I haven't found these as effective arguments when trying to talk badly about either to one of their respective supporters.

[anygunanywhere]

Those who choose to ignore the anointed one's lack of proof of citizenship are "ovrlooking" matters of importance.

Anygunanywhere

To be clear I think Obama's birth status is as questionable as McCain's. I think you can at least concede they're both very controversial. While you and I may not want to overlook these matters the unfortunate situation is 1) the system is and 2) I haven't found these as effective arguments when trying to talk badly about either to one of their respective supporters.

My effective argument - maobama has accomplished nothing in his life except be a socialist. Maobama does not even have a US passport. He travels under a Nigerian passport. A NIGERIAN PASSPORT!!!
THE PRESIDENT ELECT DOES NOT HAVE A US PASSPORT!!!!!

McCain can land a fighter on an aircraft carrier at night in pitching seas.

Anygunanywhere

[jimlongley]

I give up! I tried to make an argument against fear mongering by posting premature and inflammatory material.

I'll repeat what I said a few threads ago. I guess anything is good if it gets the natives stirred up.

I have never doubted that bills will be filed. But I also think Obama may be smart enough not to fulfill many of his campaign promises.

You should give up, Mike, you're espousing being reactive instead of proactive, not a good thing in this political climate.

[flintknapper]

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