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If we get rid of the statutory restriction, private schools can post 30.06 signs just like any other business. Sounds reasonable.

i am kinda big on any gun anywhere but jails. I see no reason a CHL cannot be in a courtroom, bar, or airplane with their weapon... the darn things don't "just go off" by themselves. but that is a dream world.

In reality... if i can carry my G23 in class at TCU... i'll be happy.

AJSully421 wrote:i am kinda big on any gun anywhere but jails. I see no reason a CHL cannot be in a courtroom, bar, or airplane with their weapon... the darn things don't "just go off" by themselves. but that is a dream world.

In reality... if i can carry my G23 in class at TCU... i'll be happy.

I have to admit that I support banning guns in a courtroom. To me that is one of the most emotionally volatile locations you can find.

Purplehood wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:i am kinda big on any gun anywhere but jails. I see no reason a CHL cannot be in a courtroom, bar, or airplane with their weapon... the darn things don't "just go off" by themselves. but that is a dream world.

In reality... if i can carry my G23 in class at TCU... i'll be happy.

I have to admit that I support banning guns in a courtroom. To me that is one of the most emotionally volatile locations you can find.

It is, but lawyers getting shot leaving the courtroom is somewhat of a concern in my line of work. If prosecutors can carry in the courtroom, I certainly should be able to do so also. As with professional sporting events, I'm not as concerned about the courtroom as I am the walk to the car unarmed.

Chas.

GEM-Texas wrote:It is a general flaw of our CHL rules that allow places open to the public to ban CHL because of some conservative ranting about private property. Certainly, we don't allow discrimination based on race, etc. Thus, private properties rights are not absolute. The real reason for the private property ranting is that businesses and other institutions think the ban decreases their liability profiles. They really don't care about civil liberties.

I'd be happy to see 30.06 go away too, but your analogy doesn't work. Race/gender/etc discrimination is based on personal characteristics. Carrying a firearm is not a personal characteristic, so it's not comparable.

So when will this legislation be voted on?

I'm a student at a commuter school in texas. I don't really fear some whacked out nutjob coming to campus to murder everyone in sight. Buuuut, after reading the constant (weekly) police updates on robberies, armed robberies, and sexual assaults that occur in and around campus (many of the robberies and aggravated robberies occur in the lot I park in, around the same time at night when I walk to my car --sans my sidearm) I don't feel safe.

It seems that the gun-fearing types think that legislation such as this is going to cause people to hand out guns on campus to everyone. It simply extends the right of those already qualified to carry a concealed handgun on to campus grounds. There won't be "more" guns available to people, and those without CHLs won't be allowed to suddenly bring aks to class with them (although if it were legally permissible, I would bring mine, lol).

By having "gun free" zones covering campuses, we're simply telling criminals (who can and do read surprisingly) that we're completely exposed to them should they decide to bring a gun in their criminal endeavors on campus. And I've seen the reports of it from my school.

All this denial of our rights really makes me feel like America is not what our forefathers envisioned for us; their descendants.
America is like the latest baby in a nuclear family. He has a big brother--the government, and his parents have aged and no longer have the capacity to secure the world for their youngest son. The parents were hard working people who went into the wilderness with their axe and their gun. Over time they tamed the wild and built those cities of gold that the ancients used to speak of. Their wilderness abode was harsh and life was difficult at best mostly, but they persevered. But now, in their waning years, they've left big brother to look after the young one. Big brother had good intentions toward his younger. He put safety devices on all the electrical plugs, he took out all the furniture with sharp edges, he bricked up the fireplace so the youngling wouldn't ever get burned. He padded the walls, put in a security system, installed a vchip in the tv, and even stockpiled food for the young one. Big brother was so good at making sure that everything was safe he decided to make a living of doing that all the time, everywhere and for everyone. Now big brother put the parents in a retirement home, and left to protect the world. Only, he forgot to legislate a door lock for the front door. And the young one is at home, alone, and "safe". But the wolf can smell him. The wolf is the remainder of the scourge that the elders tried to vanquish in their time, before Big brother started taking care of everything for them. And now the wolf (the criminals if you haven't already guessed) has come in, and the youngling (law abiding american public) is in the center of the room (yeah, that same room that big brother sealed up the fireplace, took out all the furniture, padded the walls, etc) and the only thing standing between them is the air itself. Now the youngling realizes why the Father's gun used to have it's shining spot on top of that once roaring fireplace. But father is gone, mother is gone, big brother has left to do "better things" for the world. And here is the big bad wolf starring over his exposed fangs. And you know what the wolf is thinking? "Well I'll be voting for big brother again this year, right after I finish off this nice meal he's prepared for me!"

DEEP........

But I do agree that Carry on Campus by CHL's would be a good thing in Texas and I am hoping that it will pass this Legislative Session.

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