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Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:22 pm
by Oldgringo
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:44 pm
by boomerang
Deadly force is deadly force.
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:56 pm
by atxgun
I think a "warning shot" could be a nail in your coffin. "Your honor, if the defendant truly feared for his life then why would he waste time with a warning shot, giving the assailant more time and opportunity as well as escalating the seriousness of the situation in stead of diffusing it."
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:55 pm
by flb_78
A warning shot is a waste of good ammunition.
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:12 pm
by flintknapper
flb_78 wrote:A warning shot is a waste of good ammunition.
All "warning shots" should be made Center Mass or Cranial Ocular.
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:21 pm
by Oldgringo
Well, fellow shooters and defenders of the faith, there is one thing we all apparently agree on: if you shoot someone, you
are going to see His/Her Honor - sooner or later. All of the rest is rhetoric, speculation and hypothetical bull
Here endeth the lesson.

Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:54 am
by anygunanywhere
You can also rack the slide of your pistol before you fire the warning shot.That will add drama to the act like it does in the movies and TV.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:17 am
by Excaliber
oldgringo wrote:Yepper, I was waiting for that...again.

A warning shot doesn't have to be fired into the air. It can be fired into the ground, a tree,
a leg, a trash can, a flower pot or
vertically into the sidewalk, whatever is available - except an innocent bystander. The actor is trying to avert a deadly force situation. If it can't be averted,

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I'm confused.
Whose leg did you have in mind for that "warning shot" - yours or the antagonist's?
That "vertically into the sidewalk" shot might well produce the same results.
While warning shot tactics in any shape or form may sound good after a few beers at a meeting of the local armchair commandos club, there are lots of non hypothetical good reasons why armed professionals don't engage in these practices. Many of these have been discussed at length in other threads on this forum.
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:37 am
by Oldgringo

I just looked up 'warning shots' on a police forum and it appears that y'all may know more about the advisability of 'warning shots' than I do.
That said, I hope I never have to face a
shoot or don't shoot situation in real life. If one shoots one, one will have to explain one's actions to His/Her Honor and perhaps 12 of one's peers - sooner or later

and that won't be cheap.
"Don't Tread On Me"

Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:42 am
by bdickens
Besides, shooing off those Gold Dots can get expensive. Gotta make every round count!
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:42 am
by Excaliber
Oldgringo wrote:
I just looked up 'warning shots' on a police forum and it appears that y'all may know more about the advisability of 'warning shots' than I do.
That said, I hope I never have to face a
shoot or don't shoot situation in real life. If one shoots one, one will have to explain one's actions to His/Her Honor and perhaps 12 of one's peers - sooner or later

and that won't be cheap.
"Don't Tread On Me"

Oldgringo,
We're all here to learn.
If our discussions and critiques can help each other be better prepared for bad situations and to make better decisions when we encounter them, our time spent here will have been a most worthwhile investment.
I commend you for not just taking some of the members' word (my own included) for the advisability of warning shots, and for taking the initiative to find other reliable sources to confirm or negate what's been said. That's the reasonable man's approach to making sure his beliefs are well grounded, and not just based on the last thing he read or heard.
Sharing this information on the forum is the best way to make sure we all operate on the best information available to any one of us.
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:41 pm
by Oldgringo
Excaliber wrote:Oldgringo wrote:
I just looked up 'warning shots' on a police forum and it appears that y'all may know more about the advisability of 'warning shots' than I do.
That said, I hope I never have to face a
shoot or don't shoot situation in real life. If one shoots one, one will have to explain one's actions to His/Her Honor and perhaps 12 of one's peers - sooner or later

and that won't be cheap.
"Don't Tread On Me"

Oldgringo,
We're all here to learn.
If our discussions and critiques can help each other be better prepared for bad situations and to make better decisions when we encounter them, our time spent here will have been a most worthwhile investment.
I commend you for not just taking some of the members' word (my own included) for the advisability of warning shots, and for taking the initiative to find other reliable sources to confirm or negate what's been said. That's the reasonable man's approach to making sure his beliefs are well grounded, and not just based on the last thing he read or heard.
Sharing this information on the forum is the best way to make sure we all operate on the best information available to any one of us.
The fact of the matter is: none of us are going to know what we're going to do until we do it. While every situation of this sort is the same - they are all different. For example, Gun Rule No. 4 -
Be sure of your target and what's beyond it. One can not be over prepared for such encounters and one must be situationally aware at all times. Afterall, the life you save may be mine.

Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:12 am
by DoubleActionCHL
When carrying a semi-auto, there is only one round you can really count on, and that's the one in the pipe. Why would you waste it in the air or dirt, risking a malfunction that could take you out of the fight... permanently?