LaserGrips and concealment

[shooter76blue]

I am a lefty and bought some CT grips for my Kimber Tactical Ultra. I ordered a holster from Mr. Bullard (drbullard@aol.com) and told him about my CT grips. He "fashioned" the holster to hold my Kimber perfectly...

[arod757]

I was just advised that the laser light that replaces the guide rod will void your warranty with Glock.

Is this so?

Beats me.

Just passing on what I was told.

Read this on the Lasermax site:

"Will the LaserMax® void the warranty on the firearm?

No. Because no permanent modifications are made to the firearm with the LaserMax® laser, the pistol can always be returned to factory-original condition for firearm warranty repair."

Sounds reasonable to me. I have all the OEM parts for my Glock that I replaced with the Lasermax parts and would send it for service with the OEM parts anyway.

[Abraham]

arod757,

Thanks for the head's up.

I got my information from a clerk at a store who's name I'd rather not mention.

Currently, I'm on the fence about putting one on my carry pistol, as one LEO friend advised that in most attack situations you won't have time to use a laser. Too close! Too quick!

Still, if it improves accuracy when some distance IS a part of the equation I might really appreciate having one.

Decisions, decisions...

[Nintao]

I can say that i have never had a problem with CTC lasers on my Beretta. Unless you actively hit the button the laser is not going to activate.

Just don't make his mistake and activate it during an IDPA match :).

[DoubleJ]

haha, good'en.

I may have that problem on the 28th...

I have a question, how would you not have time to use your laser? if you have time to grip your pistol, you have turned the laser on. least that's how most of the ones I've ever encountered are actuated! thus the name LaserGrip.
you're more likely to have your eyes on your assailant, so seeing that red dot bouncing around right over the top or your sights could only help!

[Abraham]

DoubleJ,

It takes time to put the red dot on your target, see it, and respond.

The luxury of that amount of time may not (probably won't) be available in a very quick, very short distance (as in 3-6' or so) attack...

[arod757]

I agree that it takes too long to locate the red dot in a draw and fire situation. I think the laser may be useful as a deterrent though.

Maybe you accidentally bump into some punk on the street and he takes offense even though you apologize. He starts cursing you out and you're simply trying to get away to avoid the confrontation. Maybe you're a good 15 to 20 feet away. Said punk keeps following you and pulls a knife, at which point you draw your pistol and tell him to drop his weapon and not come any closer. He doesn't drop the knife and starts egging you on to shoot him because he thinks he's invincible and you won't actually shoot. You light him up with the laser and hopefully scare him into compliance. Maybe you just avoided having to stop some stupid kid and having his possible, and likely, death on your conscience the rest of your life.

All conjecture, of course, but who knows?

Anyway... IMHO, it's a WAY COOL toy to have.

[Nintao]

Put the laser in his eyes to blind him :). Of course how would it stand up if he tells you to shoot him :p "Come on man shoot me! You don't have the guts! Do it!" Well ok you asked for it :p.

[bryang]

I was just advised that the laser light that replaces the guide rod will void your warranty with Glock.

Is this so?

Beats me.

Just passing on what I was told.

I don't know, but I had the guide rod laser installed in my G38... it worked great.

I was wondering that when I installed it, anyway, I have since sold it.

-geo

[fm2]

DoubleJ,

It takes time to put the red dot on your target, see it, and respond.

The luxury of that amount of time may not (probably won't) be available in a very quick, very short distance (as in 3-6' or so) attack...

I think that is a training issue. If you are "dot hunting" it will slow you down. If you use it to confirm your physical index, it shouldn't slow you down. The low light, ranged shooting, and shooting on the move scenarios it should also help. It should be a good addition to a J frame where night sights are not an option.


Here's a new video:

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The best way to see how it works is use a timer and shoot drills with and with out the laser.

[jimlongley]

Just don't make his mistake and activate it during an IDPA match :).

Been there, done that!!!

I got to the match a little late and decided to use my night fighter carry gun, and forgot to deactiviate the laser.

DoubleJ,

It takes time to put the red dot on your target, see it, and respond.

The luxury of that amount of time may not (probably won't) be available in a very quick, very short distance (as in 3-6' or so) attack...

I think that is a training issue. If you are "dot hunting" it will slow you down. If you use it to confirm your physical index, it shouldn't slow you down. The low light, ranged shooting, and shooting on the move scenarios it should also help. It should be a good addition to a J frame where night sights are not an option.

Funny thing was that as I started the first stage of the match, I was surprised to find a red dot floating around on my targets right in front of my sights.

I feel that if you are pointing properly, the dot just serves to allow you to be that much more accurate. Of course that really only applies if you aren't trying to outstrip the capabilities of the laser.

[Nintao]

I am glad I have not aquired mine yet, as I am still vastly improving my shooting skills. Better to learn to shoot without the laser, that way when you do have the laser it is only an advantage and not a requirement. I mean I do not want to put my life/death situation on some lithium batteries. Playing with Wildscar's does make me want mine much faster! I think I have spent my laser funds a few times on 7.62 x 39mm ammo .

[KD5NRH]

I'd like to put CrimsonTrace lasrgrips on my Glock 27. Anyone else done this, how does it effect the concealment? I don't want to buy them if they cause an unsightly bulge.

I'd like to put an aftermarket cupholder in my '92 Tempo, but I'm worried that it will be unsightly, or impair the ergonomics of the vehicle. Does anyone know for sure?



I mean, really, worrying about something being unsightly on a Glock or making it hard to conceal is like worrying about something being smelly in New Jersey.

[The Annoyed Man]

I was just advised that the laser light that replaces the guide rod will void your warranty with Glock.

Is this so?

Beats me.

Just passing on what I was told.

Our member Marty is a Glock armorer. Maybe he can tell us.

[The Annoyed Man]

I'd like to put CrimsonTrace lasrgrips on my Glock 27. Anyone else done this, how does it effect the concealment? I don't want to buy them if they cause an unsightly bulge.

I'd like to put an aftermarket cupholder in my '92 Tempo, but I'm worried that it will be unsightly, or impair the ergonomics of the vehicle. Does anyone know for sure?



I mean, really, worrying about something being unsightly on a Glock or making it hard to conceal is like worrying about something being smelly in New Jersey.

Oh no you didn't!! Now all us 1911 guys are going to have to hear from all the Glock guys about how superior their tupperware is to a fine piece of shooting machinery.