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stroo wrote:It is not the monetary risk that would stop me from intervening. It is the question of whether I know enough to know who really is the party that needs protection. Some situations it may be clear. In many, it won't be.

Totally agree. For example, you see a man yell at a woman next to a van in a parking lot "Get in the car!" and then tries shoving her in. Well, this could be 2 different scenarios.
1. He's in the process of kidnapping her, where it would be justifiable to use force.
2. This could just be a spousal confrontation, where intervening to diffuse the situation could be called for as a good citizen (followed with a call to 911).

With regard to 3rd party defense, you just never really know with strangers. If you are familiar with the 3rd party, it's your call

Of course you can always intervene in a situation without having to use force. However, if the BG pulls a gun, all bets are off.

bubba1876 wrote:
Of course you can always intervene in a situation without having to use force. However, if the BG pulls a gun, all bets are off.

Well, then it's defense of self...

The only third parties I know - that, is KNOW - that I would immediately step in and defend would be family or a very few close friends. Other than some extreme case where there's NO possible doubt as to the bad guy, and the danger wasn't so extreme it called for making myself scarce (e.g., a whole bunchof armed bad guys), I'd hang back, call 911, and be a good witness.

Only if I beleived that the 3rd party was about to suffer life threatening harm I would step in. Their being robbed is less important than me facing jail or being sued because I helped.

PArrow wrote:Only if I beleived that the 3rd party was about to suffer life threatening harm I would step in. Their being robbed is less important than me facing jail or being sued because I helped.

I can't afford to defend a stranger. What if they're anti gun and sue me for violating their rights if I use a gun to save them?

cling wrote:I can't afford to defend a stranger. What if they're anti gun and sue me for violating their rights if I use a gun to save them?

36 more and you are there.

Anygunanywhere

anygunanywhere wrote:How can we demand our complete RKBA and deny life to the innocent as a "private matter"?

RKBA is a private matter if it's concealed.

cling wrote: RKBA is a private matter if it's concealed.

Only 32 more to go.

Anygunanywhere

anygunanywhere wrote:

cling wrote: RKBA is a private matter if it's concealed.

Only 32 more to go.

Anygunanywhere

More like 70 hours now.



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