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Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:09 pm
by Oldgringo
Charles L. Cotton wrote:HB3318 wrote:(e)At the punishment stage of a trial in which a defendant
has been found guilty of causing the death of a child to whom the
defendant gave birth within the 12-month period preceding the
child ’s death, the defendant may raise the issue as to whether the
defendant caused the child ’s death because the defendant ’s judgment
was impaired as a result of the effects of giving birth or the
effects of lactation following the birth. If the defendant proves
the issue in the affirmative by a preponderance of the evidence, the
offense is a state jail felony.
So you have to meet the standard of insanity to be found "not guilty by reason of insanity," but merely having your judgment "impaired" is sufficient to reduce the classification of murdering an infant from capitol murder (death penalty or life in prison) to a state jail felony (6 months to two years in jail).
Jessica Farrar,the bill's primary author, is also the woman who filed
HB1395 that would make legal hunting a defense to prosecution, meaning every hunter could be arrested and prosecuted and they would have to hire an attorney to prove the defense of lawful hunting. So she would have lawful hunters to jail for killing a dove, but only have a murdering mother spend 6 months to two years in jail.
Chas.
Who is this woman and how did she get elected in Texas - of all places? The problem is not Jessica Farrar, the problem is her constituency and her supporters/followers in the legislature. It's not illegal to be a whacko, but the voters should know better than elect whackos to speak for them unless, of course...er, uh, well, you know, the voters themselves are whackos.
BTW, my little rant has nothing to do with freedom of choice.
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:29 am
by Dave01
nitrogen wrote:I'm guessing this has something to do with Abortion, but I fail to see what.
Even though I support the right to choose (yeah, I know, lemme have it) this makes no sense and I will make a call, along with all the pro gun stuff I will call about
I don't think this is about abortion. It appears to be worded specifically to reduce the sentence of women who suffer from postpartum depression/psychosis and murder their child as a result. This would only apply in a very specific circumstance; not to anyone/everyone who murders a child.
I agree with Charles though. There is already a standard for "insanity" which should be applied in these cases.
Dave
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:35 am
by nitrogen
Ok, that makes sense.
It's still insane.
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:56 am
by barres
nitrogen wrote:Ok, that makes sense.
It's still insane.
It makes sense but it's insane.
I guess I can see where this is coming from, but I think it makes no sense, whatsoever. If the mother is insane (due to post-partum depression or whatever) then she'll be found not guilty by reason of insanity. If she is/was not insane, then she knew that what she was doing was wrong, and she should face the full penalty for her illegal actions!
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:11 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
lunchbox wrote:
why is this even being considered
Because the libtards have messed up their states of origin so much that they are going bankrupt and they are jumping ship like rats..they are coming here and are attempting to mess up our state as well!
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:42 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
lunchbox wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:roberts wrote:lunchbox wrote: why is this even being considered
Why is it being discussed? I thought politics discussions aren't allowed unless it's about guns.
I'll let you know when I want you to join the Moderator Corps. Until then, don't call us, we'll call you.
Chas.
I didnt mean on this forum i meant in the state legislature
My comment wasn't directed at your post. Sorry if it appeared that way.
Chas.
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:02 pm
by lunchbox
how do libtards get elected to our state gov when they came from another state that should be illegal
Re: HB 3318 Infanticide Bill - Please Protect the Children
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:51 am
by Captain Matt
TheArmedFarmer wrote:I'm still outraged about this.
Another thought occurred to me: do we not all have a right to equal protection under the law? How does it make sense to lessen (or increase) the offense against someone based on the age of the victim?
Then they should delete #8 from 19.03 in the penal code.
To give all victims a right to equal protection under the law, they also should delete #1 and #9. Maybe other special cases too.