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I agree on driving in NYC.

The last time we were there, we rented a car to visit someone way out on the east end of Long Island.

- Jim

Into the belly of the beast.

seamusTX wrote:It was half an hour of standing on a steep, narrow spiral staircase with a stranger's butt in my face

Note to self: have my wife go in front of me on the Statue tour.

mr.72 wrote:

seamusTX wrote:It was half an hour of standing on a steep, narrow spiral staircase with a stranger's butt in my face

Note to self: have my wife go in front of me on the Statue tour.

lol! sounds like an excellent plan!

My experience at the Empire State Building - had my usual S&W pocket knife...saw the metal detectors...before I went through I walked up and talked quietly to one of the guards, asked if I could check my knife with him...he obliged, no big deal was made, seems that it was a standard procedure. After the tour I retrieved it with no issues.

NYC is an interesting place to visit. I've been there a decent amount of times for business and I've always enjoyed it. The food, sights, people, etc. Actually rode the subway the last time I was there. If you want a quick tour of the city I'd recommend the hop-on-hop-off double-decker bus tours. It's a quick and cheap way to get a feel for the city and see the sights. That's one of my "travel tips" for when you don't have alot of time in a city but you want to see as much as you can.

PUCKER wrote: If you want a quick tour of the city I'd recommend the hop-on-hop-off double-decker bus tours. It's a quick and cheap way to get a feel for the city and see the sights. That's one of my "travel tips" for when you don't have alot of time in a city but you want to see as much as you can.

That's what we did last time we were there (last fall).

This time it'll be a multi-day trip. I don't expect it to be as much tourist stuff.

mr.72 wrote:Believe me, this was not my idea.

But you are a good man for making it work...And doing so without ruining her fun...

Take her to Lombardi’s on Spring Street near Mott...One of the best pizza joints I've ever been to...

WildBill wrote:

mr.72 wrote:Believe me, this was not my idea.

Notwithstanding CHL/Self-Protection issues, NYC is a fabulous place to visit. There are many fun things to see and do. It is the city that never sleeps. Watch your back and bring plenty of money.

Stay south of 96th street if you don't know where you're going and you'll be fine.

NY is actually a great place to VISIT.

nitrogen wrote: NY is actually a great place to VISIT.

Naw, it ain't. Everything's too expensive and there're too many -------- Yankees. It's 'bout a hundred times worse than Houston.

E10 wrote:

nitrogen wrote: NY is actually a great place to VISIT.

Naw, it ain't. Everything's too expensive and there're too many -------- Yankees. It's 'bout a hundred times worse than Houston.

I actually like Houston, too.

NYC's a very safe place...I never felt the need to have a gun, and we spent a lot of time in Chinatown and Brooklyn.....sadly, Houston seems a lot more dangerous than the big apple. That's sad.

Much to my surprise, you are correct. The violent crime rate in Houston was 1,132 per 100,000 in 2007. The corresponding figure for New York City was 614.

Now, the problem with these overall figures is that they do not distinguish between assaults on strangers (the kind that we typically worry about), gangsters going after each other, and domestic violence.

The detailed data are available for someone who has the time and inclination to crunch the numbers: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_08.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In any case, the New York of Death Wish is not the New York of today.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:Much to my surprise, you are correct. The violent crime rate in Houston was 1,132 per 100,000 in 2007. The corresponding figure for New York City was 614.

Now, the problem with these overall figures is that they do not distinguish between assaults on strangers (the kind that we typically worry about), gangsters going after each other, and domestic violence.

The detailed data are available for someone who has the time and inclination to crunch the numbers: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_08.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In any case, the New York of Death Wish is not the New York of today.

- Jim

I wonder how much crime went up in Houston after Katrina? I know some of the New Orleans gangs tried to make it there for a while...that might explain a rise in violence if the Houston and NO gangs were fighting for territory.

In 2004 (the year before Katrina), the overall violent crime rate in Houston was 1,146 per 100,000.

The Katrina evacuees seemed to do quite a bit of damage (which probably was over-reported), but overall it was a statistical blip.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:In 2004 (the year before Katrina), the overall violent crime rate in Houston was 1,146 per 100,000.

The Katrina evacuees seemed to do quite a bit of damage (which probably was over-reported), but overall it was a statistical blip.

- Jim

Thanks Jim. That was the impression I had gotten. The thugs and gangs liked the NO laws better, so they went back to Louisiana I guess.