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Re: El Paso DPS Highway Stop

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:25 am
by dicion
Being in traffic for my job, and having read the traffic 'bible', the MUTCD, many times, I'm not so certain that those 'night' signs are legally enforcable.

I'd have to look them up specifically, but for some reason, I recall reading something once about the requirement of speed limit signs that would make them invalid. It might have been something about it being Black Text on a white sign, rather than the reverse or something.

I'll look it up when I get back to the office today if I have time.
I may be completely remembering it wrong, but I'll do some additional investigation.

Re: El Paso DPS Highway Stop

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:54 am
by LaserTex
The MOST FAMOUS Texas speed trap ever - at Segovia Truck Stop on I-10 outside of Junction is now either 75 or 80 until the Kerr County Line near Kerrville. Those poor DPS guys just can't get a break. I have a 3 ticket collection from there; wife had 5 by the time they upped the limit.

Doug :txflag:

Re: El Paso DPS Highway Stop

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:02 am
by dihappy
I wonder if there being a lower speed limit at "night" and it not being posted is no excuse.

I mean how many times have we heard: "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."?

Like other traffic laws, there are things we "should" know even if not posted correct?
Like passing on a double line, etc, etc.

Re: El Paso DPS Highway Stop

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:16 am
by PappaGun
This is a timely thread!

Heading to Ft. Biggs tomorrow to welcome my son back from Iraq.
I will be on I 10 for a good part of the distance.

This is good information.

First time I'll be traveling with plastic. I feel better already.

Does anyone have any advice on I 20 between Dallas and the I 10 junction?

Re: El Paso DPS Highway Stop

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:22 am
by Viffer
Really not much advice on your route from East Dallas. Once you get on the freeway, it is 650 miles without a signal light. I'd make sure you stopped for gas in the Midland-Odessa area. The merge with I-10 is west of this area. Good luck on this important trip.

Re: El Paso DPS Highway Stop

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:44 am
by barres
dihappy wrote:I wonder if there being a lower speed limit at "night" and it not being posted is no excuse.

I mean how many times have we heard: "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."?

Like other traffic laws, there are things we "should" know even if not posted correct?
Like passing on a double line, etc, etc.
Some laws are universal, like your passing on a double line example. Night-time speed limit differences are not universal. Some roads drop the limit at night, but some do not. Not even all stretches of interstate highways have lower speed limits at night. It would be unreasonable to expect anyone, much less everyone, to know what roads do or do not have lower speed limits at night, if they are not posted.

That being said, it is not a defense to say, "I didn't see a sign" that was posted. You can be ignorant that the sign was there and be guilty.