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Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:02 pm
by Purplehood
Some folks don't like to be confused with the facts.

Just saying...

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:35 pm
by USA1
some of ya'll may not agree with this , but i don't really even look for those signs .

i figure they won't know if i'm packin or not .
i don't think i stand out from any other normal person there .

i know i'm taking my chances , but that's my choice .

i would rather be safe than sorry .

BTW , i would absolutely not carry in a school or a bar . :nono:

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:25 pm
by Utopia54
USA1 wrote:some of ya'll may not agree with this , but i don't really even look for those signs .

i figure they won't know if i'm packin or not .
i don't think i stand out from any other normal person there .

i know i'm taking my chances , but that's my choice .

i would rather be safe than sorry .

BTW , i would absolutely not carry in a school or a bar . :nono:
USA1 I totally agree with you on this issue. But I will not visit any location banning concealed carry if I have a choice.

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:30 pm
by USA1
Utopia54 wrote:
USA1 wrote:some of ya'll may not agree with this , but i don't really even look for those signs .

i figure they won't know if i'm packin or not .
i don't think i stand out from any other normal person there .

i know i'm taking my chances , but that's my choice .

i would rather be safe than sorry .

BTW , i would absolutely not carry in a school or a bar . :nono:
USA1 I totally agree with you on this issue. But I will not visit any location banning concealed carry if I have a choice.
good point . :tiphat:

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:32 pm
by jaurelio
Keith B wrote:Doesn't Outback serve alcohol? If so, any restaurant in Tennessee that serves alcohol is off limits automatically per the state statutes.

They tried to get the law set to 51% like Texas, and it passed the House and Senate, but the Governor vetoed it. If you read this moths American Rifleman there is an article on this issue in Tennessee and the push to get a lot of businesses to prohibit concealed carry.

So, bottom line, whether the restaurant wants it or not, if they serve alcohol you can't carry in Tennessee.

Keith
We managed to get restaurant carry passed and signed so now we can carry in those restaurants that serve alcohol but haven't posted the TN equivalent of a 30.06 sign. Outback has posted such a sign.
Joe

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:49 pm
by stevie_d_64
nitrogen wrote:Their loss. Yet another reason for me to avoid their expensive, yet subpar food.

AMC sends me mailers wondering why I dont use my moviewatcher card anymore. I guess they didn't believe me when I wrote them explaining why I would not use it anymore.
Well, it was not their anti-gun stance that got me...It was the $9.50 per person, per ticket cost that keeps me away from their doors...

And the run amok gang scene there as well...

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:52 pm
by Commander
Luggo1 wrote:The first capital murder case I defended involved the execution style murder of 3 Outback employees in Texarkana, Texas. They were herded to the back of the restaurant, which had closed for the night and were executed. I wonder if any of the 3 (one was pregnant too) wished they had some other alternative to being shot down like cattle? I suspect that they would have. Outback was also sued civily over the incident, I don't know the current status of that suit. I think you should send the Outback rep a letter back and ask him about whether or not he would like to have some other option, that the Outback employees in Texarkana did not. Ask him if that quadruple homicide is one of the "benefits" of their policy? Perhaps he could maybe see one reason in that example that someone other than criminals carrying guns into an Outback restaurant might be a good thing?

Silly me...
Also, If I recall that case correctly the shooter was a former employee of the Texarkana Outback who showed up at closing time and was let in by the employees because they "knew" him.....I used to eat at that Outback periodically and often wondered if those that were killed had waited on me during one of my visits.....

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:00 pm
by joe817
Luggo1 wrote:The first capital murder case I defended involved the execution style murder of 3 Outback employees in Texarkana, Texas. They were herded to the back of the restaurant, which had closed for the night and were executed. I wonder if any of the 3 (one was pregnant too) wished they had some other alternative to being shot down like cattle? I suspect that they would have. Outback was also sued civily over the incident, I don't know the current status of that suit. I think you should send the Outback rep a letter back and ask him about whether or not he would like to have some other option, that the Outback employees in Texarkana did not. Ask him if that quadruple homicide is one of the "benefits" of their policy? Perhaps he could maybe see one reason in that example that someone other than criminals carrying guns into an Outback restaurant might be a good thing? Silly me...
If that doesn't drive the point home, I don't know what would. Thank you for posting that Luggo1. :tiphat:

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:48 pm
by C-dub
I haven't been to an Outback in years. I've ordered prime rib from them twice before I figured out that no matter how you order it it's going to pink all over.

Anyway, I was just wondering what a great opportunity this might be for all of us to send this person, or anyone else at Outback worthy, an e-mail expaining that because of their policy of banning law abiding citizens from carrying concealed handguns we won't be dining in their restaruant any more because we DON'T feel safe?

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:12 pm
by Luggo1
Commander wrote:
Luggo1 wrote:The first capital murder case I defended involved the execution style murder of 3 Outback employees in Texarkana, Texas. They were herded to the back of the restaurant, which had closed for the night and were executed. I wonder if any of the 3 (one was pregnant too) wished they had some other alternative to being shot down like cattle? I suspect that they would have. Outback was also sued civily over the incident, I don't know the current status of that suit. I think you should send the Outback rep a letter back and ask him about whether or not he would like to have some other option, that the Outback employees in Texarkana did not. Ask him if that quadruple homicide is one of the "benefits" of their policy? Perhaps he could maybe see one reason in that example that someone other than criminals carrying guns into an Outback restaurant might be a good thing?

Silly me...
Also, If I recall that case correctly the shooter was a former employee of the Texarkana Outback who showed up at closing time and was let in by the employees because they "knew" him.....I used to eat at that Outback periodically and often wondered if those that were killed had waited on me during one of my visits.....
Neither of the two people convicted would have waited on you. I think it is fairly certain they the individuals were not "let" in. They were not likely to have been welcome there during normal hours.

There is no guarantee the outcome would have been different had all or one of the employees been armed, they certainly would have had some chance though.

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:30 pm
by Big Tuna
I think the steaks at Outback are good value for the price. They're not Peter Luger but as a frequent flier I think they're better than many chains. I'm not shy about telling the waitress exactly how I want mine cooked, so maybe that makes a difference.

The email said it's corporate policy but I never saw a sign at any Outback and I ate at Outback restaurants in three states in the past year. No signs at any of Outback's Bonefish Grill restaurants in four states either. None of them were in Tennessee so it sounds like a local problem not a national one.

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:26 pm
by jaurelio
Big Tuna wrote:I think the steaks at Outback are good value for the price. They're not Peter Luger but as a frequent flier I think they're better than many chains. I'm not shy about telling the waitress exactly how I want mine cooked, so maybe that makes a difference.

The email said it's corporate policy but I never saw a sign at any Outback and I ate at Outback restaurants in three states in the past year. No signs at any of Outback's Bonefish Grill restaurants in four states either. None of them were in Tennessee so it sounds like a local problem not a national one.
If they can get away with it in TN they will try to get away with it in other states. If we don't stand together they will win. It seems that it is a national problem and all of us should stand together and take our business to those companies that respect our desires. So even if they local Outbacks don't ban their Corporate police is to ban...so we need to take our business to restaurants the don't ban so that they local owners pressure corporate to fix the problem.

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:07 am
by boomerang
jaurelio wrote:It seems that it is a national problem and all of us should stand together and take our business to those companies that respect our desires.
Why do you think it's a national problem? I noticed the email you posted is from a guy with a phone number in the 615 area code. I think that's in TN. But the corporate offices for Outback are in FL. http://www.osirestaurantpartners.com/in ... ompany.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:27 am
by Liberty
While I would agree that it is a local problem, the Tennessee folks have been fighting a tough battle and they really deserve our support. While they have been making great strides, the antis have been making a lot of trouble and even have a governor amongst them. At a national level if we can can possibly hurt them at the bottom line, maybe companys can understand that a 30.06 will cause them pain.

Re: Outback Steak House

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:47 am
by lonewolf
My wife made me go to Outback yesterday. I saw no posting of 30.06 anywhere. Precinct Line and 183. Perhaps their corporate policy has not trickled down here yet..... :patriot: