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Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:26 pm
by Frost
You could only sue them if they did something pretty stupid. You would just be fired and told to leave.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:35 pm
by seamusTX
Frost wrote:You could only sue them if they did something pretty stupid.
The funny thing is, they do stupid things quite often. Usually it's mall ninjas trying to apprehend suspected shoplifters who are innocent.

- Jim

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:40 pm
by dac1842
An emplloyer generally speaking cannot search your vehicle. Now there are exceptions. If your employee handbook states that the employer has the right to search AND this was disclosed prior to you accepting employment the employer MIGHT have grounds to search, though most employers are very cautious on doing so.
If your employer has the parking lot posted that any vehicle entering the premises is subject to search, then by entering you have given your consent to search. This has gone both ways when contested.
Many employers use dogs to search the parking lot. Then when the dog hits on drugs or weapons then the employer will ask you to search the car. Refusal typically means you no longer work there.
My employer takes a if we dont see it, it aint there approach. Though weapons are banned, as long it is not in plain view or as long as no one complains that they know you have one, we dont go looking. However, having one will get you in deep doo doo real fast.
Bottom line is simple, if you have one, and your employer bans it, keep it concealed and keep it quiet. Remember, a secret is only a secret if two people know it and one of them is dead.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:03 pm
by flechero
I guess I've been sheltered from crazy corporate policies thus far... but since I'm just beginning a job search, I hope my fortune continues. At minimum, I'd be looking for an alternate lot or street parking.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:20 pm
by DoubleJ
Kevinf2349 wrote:
Frost wrote:Some companies run dogs trained on gunpowder through the parking area.
At my place of work the dogs would probably not be able to smell anything past all the management horse pucky that is around anyway! "rlol"
hahaha
:mrgreen:

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:17 pm
by jsimmons
We have a "no firearms on premises" policy, but their is also a statement that says we can't do it unless we have specific permission to do so.

I asked for permission today. I mentioned that I had applied for my CHL and wanted permission to keep my pistol locked up in the car. I guess I'll have to wait and see if this was a mistake.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:51 pm
by jsimmons
Update to my previous post - we had our monthly company luncheon today, and it was announced to all employees that it was perfectly acceptable to have a firearm in your car in the company parking lot.

Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:52 pm
by USA1
jsimmons wrote:Update to my previous post - we had our monthly company luncheon today, and it was announced to all employees that it was perfectly acceptable to have a firearm in your car in the company parking lot.

Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.
:txflag: :cheers2:

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:21 pm
by seamusTX
Wow. Just wow.

:shock:

- Jim

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:40 pm
by stevie_d_64
jsimmons wrote:Update to my previous post - we had our monthly company luncheon today, and it was announced to all employees that it was perfectly acceptable to have a firearm in your car in the company parking lot.

Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.
Do they need someone to sweep the floors...I'm good to go...

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:39 pm
by jsimmons
The beauty of it is that I didn't even have to argue my case. They use the same definition for "premises" as does the state - "a building or any part thereof" - and which specifically excludes parking lots.

Apparently, since it was in the Employee Handbook, nobody ever thought to get permission until I came along. :)

There were a number of people in the audience that applauded the announcement, and before today, I only knew of at least two other people in the company that are outspoken friends of the 2nd amendment. It looks like there are actually a lot more than just the three of us.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:39 pm
by PappaGun
THAT IS AWESOME!

:tiphat:

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:04 pm
by dac1842
Jsimmons, I wish my employer would take that tact. The nice neighborhoods we build railroads in back in 1900 aint so nice anymore/

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:13 am
by jsimmons
dac1842 wrote:Jsimmons, I wish my employer would take that tact. The nice neighborhoods we build railroads in back in 1900 aint so nice anymore/
I honestly didn't know how it was going to turn out. The worst thing that could have happened would have been that they become unreasonably alarmed and just fire me, simply say "no", or do what they did and announce that it was allowed. I guess you could say I got lucky. :)

BTW, this is the 2nd company in a row that I've worked for that allowed firearms in the company parking lot. Al least half of the employees had CHLs. The other company even allowed licensed concealed carry in the building until certain things happened that caused the company to go out of business. People were actually afraid of what the owner (who had a CHL) might do, so the CEO put up the 30.06 signs shortly before they went under.

Re: vehicle search by employer??

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:00 am
by Rugrash
stevie_d_64 wrote:
C-dub wrote:The company can do it because, in most cases, the employees have given them permission. Most of the time the company will have us read and sign a letter stating that we are aware of their policy and we give them permission to search our vehicles. This is usually a condition of employment.
Get you a safe that can be bolted down or secured in a way that locks "it" up, and "it" can only be accessed by combination or a separate key, from your "normal" keyring...

"What??? Oh that, yeah...I don't have the key for that "in hand"...I can come back tomorrow and have the key to open it then."
You could always say that you keep rolls of quarters in your safe for tolls etc. I've got one of these in every car.

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