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karder wrote:

mbw wrote:Your Kimber is a single action 1911 style pistol.

Hate to tell you this, but if you are joining HPD, the 1911 is not available for you to carry as a duty weapon. The only officers that can carry a 1911 are the ones grandfathered in years ago. I don't know about others like Harris County or the Constables, but with HPD it is a no go.

I'm curious, does anyone know what the reasoning is behind HPD's decision to not allow 1911s? I have always been a big fan of the design and my Colt Commander remains my favorite gun. I know Police Departments do a lot of research on these things (at least I think they do) and wonder why they would make a decision such as this.

prolly the same reason us customs banned them, too many negligent discharges with officers that "claimed" they just went off. when that happened my dad had to start using a H&K and he was less than amused.

CompVest wrote:I would strongly suggest that you get some good handgun training ASAP. It sounds like you are a novice handgunner and the profession you are interested in isn't the job for being a novice. There are several excellent instructors in the Houston area. If you are interested send me a PM and I will be pleased to suggest a couple of instructors.

I appreciate your advice yet I'm not a novice in any sense of the word it's just that I'm not a "gun porn" guy.

texasmr2 wrote:

CompVest wrote:I would strongly suggest that you get some good handgun training ASAP. It sounds like you are a novice handgunner and the profession you are interested in isn't the job for being a novice. There are several excellent instructors in the Houston area. If you are interested send me a PM and I will be pleased to suggest a couple of instructors.

I appreciate your advice yet I'm not a novice in any sense of the word it's just that I'm not a "gun porn" guy.

No offense, but you claim to not be a novice, however, you are asking some VERY basic questions on handguns. I think Compvest's suggestion of working with an instructor might be well advised so you become more familiar with your weapon. There might even be a firearms instructor at the academy that would be willing to give you a little extra tutoring.

As far as carrying your own personal gun, most departments will not allow you to carry anything other than their issued weapon at minimum until you are off probation. And some departments will not allow you to carry anything that is not on their approved list of duty weapons. My department in Missouri would not allow a .45 years ago when I was a LEO and still will not. .40 is the maximum.

There is an 'old rule' about 1911's, that you should never need to touch the hammer, ever. If you are touching the hammer for some reason during carry or operation, then you are doing something wrong.

I thought the decocker was in the hammer. Also the recocker is in there, too.

casingpoint wrote:

There is an 'old rule' about 1911's, that you should never need to touch the hammer, ever. If you are touching the hammer for some reason during carry or operation, then you are doing something wrong.

I thought the decocker was in the hammer. Also the recocker is in there, too.

Quote still stands
There is no reason to manually decock a 1911, or subsequently recock it. The trigger works fine as both a decocker and recocker at the same time, with a bang inbetween
1911's have been left cocked for over 50 years, and still functioned flawlessly when they were later found and shot

Once again thanks for the input.

tex

i didnt want to join this party, but since you are asking if a 1911 pistol is single action or double action, what you are telling us is that you dont know anything about pistols, otherwise you wouldnt have asked the question....heck, you went as far as to ask if you shot the thing would the next round get chambered!! that just flat out scares the crap out of me....

now the people here are just suggesting that you get the proper training that you need so you dont hurt yourself or anyone else.....

casingpoint wrote:

There is an 'old rule' about 1911's, that you should never need to touch the hammer, ever. If you are touching the hammer for some reason during carry or operation, then you are doing something wrong.

I thought the decocker was in the hammer. Also the recocker is in there, too.

Where does that put joecocker?

Somebody... please... stop me.

Keith B wrote:

texasmr2 wrote:

CompVest wrote:I would strongly suggest that you get some good handgun training ASAP. It sounds like you are a novice handgunner and the profession you are interested in isn't the job for being a novice. There are several excellent instructors in the Houston area. If you are interested send me a PM and I will be pleased to suggest a couple of instructors.

I appreciate your advice yet I'm not a novice in any sense of the word it's just that I'm not a "gun porn" guy.

No offense, but you claim to not be a novice, however, you are asking some VERY basic questions on handguns. I think Compvest's suggestion of working with an instructor might be well advised so you become more familiar with your weapon. There might even be a firearms instructor at the academy that would be willing to give you a little extra tutoring.

As far as carrying your own personal gun, most departments will not allow you to carry anything other than their issued weapon at minimum until you are off probation. And some departments will not allow you to carry anything that is not on their approved list of duty weapons. My department in Missouri would not allow a .45 years ago when I was a LEO and still will not. .40 is the maximum.

Texasmr2, achieving a high degree of competence and proficiency with law enforcement weapon systems is not "gun porn" - it's a non negotiable requirement for anyone who aspires to serve the public as an LEO. As the former commander of training operations for a 200 officer agency, I can confirm that both CompVest and Keith B. have given you excellent advice that, if heeded, will pay big dividends down the road in the protection of both your life and your career. It's a very small investment for a very big return.

Comptac Minotaur gets my vote. Or AJC Conceal co.

The minotaur is goig to be more comfortable, however the AJC conceal co is a smaller type All leather rig.

Excaliber wrote:Texasmr2, achieving a high degree of competence and proficiency with law enforcement weapon systems is not "gun porn" - it's a non negotiable requirement for anyone who aspires to serve the public as an LEO. As the former commander of training operations for a 200 officer agency, I can confirm that both CompVest and Keith B. have given you excellent advice that, if heeded, will pay big dividends down the road in the protection of both your life and your career. It's a very small investment for a very big return.

I totally agree sir and I have mentioned that I truelly appreciate their advice. Anywho I went to the range yesterday and gained quite abit of competence and proficiency with the Kimber, it shot's like a dream and is a very accurate pistol. I put 120 round's thru it and could place my shot's spot on. I shot at the 15 yard range and not once did I miss the silhouette. I started out shooting for center mass then lower abdomen then throat and then head shot's and needless to say I outscored the 3 other cadets I was shooting with by a huge margin, they were all very impressed with the Kimber and my accuracy.

Concerning my novice stance the only reason I asked those question's was due to my lack of experience with that certain pistol, the Kimber. Remember the only stupid question is the one that is NOT asked . I scored 2nd highest in my CHL class at the range with a GLOCK .40cal and it was the first time I had ever shot a semi-auto and the first time I had shot a pistol, other than my brothers Thompson Contender .270, in 20yr's. Having been raised around firearm's and hunting and getting my first gun at age 7 I'm very comfortable with firearm's in general and become very comfortable and acclimated with them very quickly.

In closing I thank and appreciate you all who have helped me with this concern,
tex