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I was shocked one day when my wife returned home from sitting on a criminal jury, and announced that the defendant was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for leaving his fly unbuttoned.

She cleared this up by informing me that in fact the jury of which she was a member convicted him of indecent exposure to a child. The judge sentenced him to life since as he had two prior convictions for aggravated sexual assaults upon children.

Jim

He still has an opportunity to appeal this within the next 30 days. More than likely he will do so and may end up getting a lighter sentence from another Judge. However, during this time he is sure gonna realize his violations of the law were severe and that he better quickly think about the ramifications of this. Others may also get the word too, so I say more power to the Judge for standing up and hammering these miscreants.

marksiwel wrote:

What a waste of a judge, she's a democrat too (what do you expect?)

This meaning of this statement is not readily apparent to me. It seems to imply Democrat judges are some kind of hard core conservatives in their rulings and I don't beleive this is actually true. Can you provide some background to validate your statement?

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:Last I checked if it breaks the law it is a real crime. Maybe I missed something. Either way he was convicted of 4 felonies...4!

As Stew put it he was putting this crap on Churches, Schools and Businesses not random walls in the hood but in highly visible places. Not that it matters where you put it its still a crime.

He got what he deserves.

marksiwel wrote:You can get as little as 2 years for 2nd degree Felonies.
This is a case of an "activist judge" trying to prove a point.
Sorry Judge, that aint why you are in the robes.

I beg to differ. That is exactly why she is in the robes, and exactly why she is a good judge. May I respectfully suggest that you take a look at her bio?

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Jim

57Coastie wrote:

marksiwel wrote:You can get as little as 2 years for 2nd degree Felonies.
This is a case of an "activist judge" trying to prove a point.
Sorry Judge, that aint why you are in the robes.

I beg to differ. That is exactly why she is in the robes, and exactly why she is a good judge. May I respectfully suggest that you take a look at her bio?

http://judgesaldana.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim

Yeah cause shes gonna post bad things ON HER WEBSITE?!
check this out
http://www.freewebs.com/defenzor608/powerbase2.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/12.35.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

provided by Subsection (c), an individual adjudged guilty of a
state jail felony shall be punished by confinement in a state jail
for any term of not more than two years or less than 180 days.
(b) In addition to confinement, an individual adjudged
guilty of a state jail felony may be punished by a fine not to exceed
$10,000.
(c) An individual adjudged guilty of a state jail felony
shall be punished for a third degree felony if it is shown on the
trial of the offense that:
(1) a deadly weapon as defined by Section 1.07 was used
or exhibited during the commission of the offense or during
immediate flight following the commission of the offense, and that
the individual used or exhibited the deadly weapon or was a party to
the offense and knew that a deadly weapon would be used or
exhibited; or
(2) the individual has previously been finally
convicted of any felony:
(A) listed in Section 3g(a)(1), Article 42.12,
Code of Criminal Procedure; or
(B) for which the judgment contains an
affirmative finding under Section 3g(a)(2), Article 42.12, Code of
Criminal Procedure.

Added by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.

if he did $7,300 counts of damage total, then he really shouldn't be held for more than two years unless he did MORE than $1500 PER PLACE. He should get 2 years without parole tops
It'll get knocked down, and the judge will be lucky to have her robes this time next year
8 Years for a non-violent offense is bull.
he could have had sexual conduct with a child and only gotten 2-10 years, with parole. Are you people really saying that they deserve the same punishment?

lets go with 8 years for 4 (3 x Graffiti 1 x Marijuana) felonies.

Lets do the math.

As you put earlier it is no more than 2years for 1 felony.

So 2 (yrs per felony) x 4 (number of felonies convicted of) = 8 years.

Seems to me he got the maximum punishment which he deserved. He broke the law and got punished. Thats how it works.

This guy had done it over, and over, and over again ad nauseum. If the first 3 times he got caught doing it didn't help he thought that no consequences would be had for his destruction. He felt invincible and nothing could hurt him.

Well he thought wrong. Having him do community service by removing what he painted would have done no good at all, IMO. He would have just started back up. 4 felony convictions. The justice system finally caught up with him.

From an outsider looking in, 8 years seems a little stiff to me. Maybe 4 would have been more appropriate, but I'm not in that city, and don't know the rampant problem they have with 'tagging' there. Perhaps that practice is at an epidemic stage where that sentence is justified.

My $.02 worth.

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:lets go with 8 years for 4 (3 x Graffiti 1 x Marijuana) felonies.

Lets do the math.

As you put earlier it is no more than 2years for 1 felony.

So 2 (yrs per felony) x 4 (number of felonies convicted of) = 8 years.

Seems to me he got the maximum punishment which he deserved. He broke the law and got punished. Thats how it works.

Is WORKS the right word?

I believe it is....

This is how the system works (verb, to act or operate effectively)...If your break a law, AKA commit a crime/real crime you will be punished, AKA sentenced to a fine, community service and/or confinement.

How many of you remember Michael Fay? He was a teenage punk who went on a graffiti crime spree in Singapore in the early ninety's. He got caught and was sentenced to 6 lashes with a cane. The American public freaked out by the horror.
Personally, I think that is a lot better an option than prison. Take the kid out and cane him publicly. If you put him in prison, the taxpayers support him for however long he is in there. If you whip the tar out him publicly, he can then go home, clean up his act, and get on with his life. I am willing to bet that a return to crime will be much less likely. Oh yeah, make him clean up his graffiti mess too.

I've got no problem with that. But I also would not mind one bit to bring back corporal punishment in the school systems either.

I got taught at a young age that actions DO have consequences. And those teachers had huge paddles!

joe817 wrote:I've got no problem with that. But I also would not mind one bit to bring back corporal punishment in the school systems either.

I got taught at a young age that actions DO have consequences. And those teachers had huge paddles!

Add public executions to the above and I'll vote for it.

People, of all ages and walks of life, must understand AND BELIEVE that their actions do have consequences. For instance, I was incarcerated in the Nashville jail for youthful, shall we say sport in a city park, back in 1962. Afterall, I was a rake and randy young man just back home from a celibate summer on the fire lines in Oregon's forests and deserved to let off a little steam.

If you said "right" to the above scenario, you would be dead wrong. When my Mother, bless her heart, answered my one call from the 'pokey', she hung up the phone. Not that I grew up as a model citizen but, I ain't been in jail since. I think that's sometimes referred to as, "lessons learned".