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Even a court ruling has no real meaning until you're in court. Driving While Black is not illegal but people get hassled for it.

juggernaut wrote:Even a court ruling has no real meaning until you're in court. Driving While Black is not illegal but people get hassled for it.

Legal precedents and case law are the results of court rulings, and these affect us profoundly.

DoubleActionCHL wrote:

juggernaut wrote:Even a court ruling has no real meaning until you're in court. Driving While Black is not illegal but people get hassled for it.

Legal precedents and case law are the results of court rulings, and these affect us profoundly.

In court? I agree.

juggernaut wrote:

DoubleActionCHL wrote:

juggernaut wrote:Even a court ruling has no real meaning until you're in court. Driving While Black is not illegal but people get hassled for it.

Legal precedents and case law are the results of court rulings, and these affect us profoundly.

In court? I agree.

I think you're either not grasping or evading my point. Anyway, back to the thread...

DoubleActionCHL wrote:I appreciate your responses, but I was really looking for something a bit more concrete.

You specifically asked for opinions. How can an opinion be more concrete?

DoubleActionCHL wrote:

bdickens wrote:Yeah, the one exception is that they can post a meeting of a government body. The meeting, not the meeting place.

Yes, 46.035(i), and there are two exceptions (that is, until we have government churches and amusement parks). Meetings of governmental entities and hospitals. Meetings are held at a "place," so for the purposes of this statute, the "place" is off limits if effective notice is given under Section 30.06 for the duration of the meeting. The VA hospital would be another example.

The VA does not have any 30.06 signs.The VA is a Federal facility. They don't have to post 30.06 to keep you from carrying there; Federal law does that.

juggernaut wrote:Even a court ruling has no real meaning until you're in court. Driving While Black is not illegal but people get hassled for it.

mehhhhh......

bdickens wrote:The VA does not have any 30.06 signs.The VA is a Federal facility. They don't have to post 30.06 to keep you from carrying there; Federal law does that.

You're probably right, however, the fact that they don't need to post 30.06 doesn't exclude the fact that they could and it would be compliant. And, of course, we have county-owned hospitals that would fall in the same category.

Purplehood wrote:You specifically asked for opinions. How can an opinion be more concrete?

It can be supported by facts.

Asking for opinions and then blasting those who offer them is unlikely to get you anywhere.

Reading through the thread, it looks like you're really asking for any legal precedents that would apply to your case.

As for the opinions offered not being backed by facts.... they are. They are backed by the language of the statutes.

If you want anything more concrete, then you are asking for case law, not opinions.

Sangiovese wrote:Asking for opinions and then blasting those who offer them is unlikely to get you anywhere.

Reading through the thread, it looks like you're really asking for any legal precedents that would apply to your case.

As for the opinions offered not being backed by facts.... they are. They are backed by the language of the statutes.

If you want anything more concrete, then you are asking for case law, not opinions.

I have yet to blast anyone. Care to point out where I have?

Statutes are not opinions, but one's interpretation of the statute constitutes opinion. How does this differ from one's interpretation of case law or other court ruling? Is this not opinion, also?

I started the thread by stating that we've talked about this before, which might suggest that I'm looking for discussion that might go beyond repetitious "it's obvious," along with a cut-n-paste of the statute. We've all been there and done that. And yes, I did specifically ask if anyone was aware of court rulings. Correct me if I'm wrong, but case law isn't established until the case is presented and ruled upon by an appellate or higher court. What I'm asking for includes, but is not necessarily limited to case law.

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