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Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:32 am
by jmra
I have seen a drum mag that fits 1911s. Don't remember how many rounds but it was a lot. Last gun show I bought a 31 round mag that fits both the 40 and 357sig glocks. Bought it for my bil who has one of the 40cal keltech rifles that takes the glock mags.

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:08 am
by lrb111
killerfly128 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:AR15 pistol with a beta mag? :mrgreen:

fixed

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The little boy in me just wistfully said, "I don't have one of those."

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:29 am
by ninemm

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:19 am
by The Annoyed Man
marksiwel wrote:
ghostrider wrote:>Which is kind of crazy when you think about it. If some BG wanted to rock and roll
>with his gun in a bad way, all it takes is multiple 10 round mags loaded up and ready
>to go. To switch out mags takes no time to speak of.

not to mention, that with millions of regular capacity mags in circulation the ban on >10rnd capacity was a waste time and money (like most bans).
The V-Tech Killer used 10 round mags
Well then, we'll have to mandate 5 round mags only! (Watch everyone switch over to 7 round S&W 686s. :mrgreen: )

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:40 am
by marksiwel
The Annoyed Man wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
ghostrider wrote:>Which is kind of crazy when you think about it. If some BG wanted to rock and roll
>with his gun in a bad way, all it takes is multiple 10 round mags loaded up and ready
>to go. To switch out mags takes no time to speak of.

not to mention, that with millions of regular capacity mags in circulation the ban on >10rnd capacity was a waste time and money (like most bans).
The V-Tech Killer used 10 round mags
Well then, we'll have to mandate 5 round mags only! (Watch everyone switch over to 7 round S&W 686s. :mrgreen: )
Just to clear up what I was saying, incase anyone thought I was Anti-10 round
I was pointing out how silly the 10 round limit was because the worst shooting in America the killer used Ban Okay round magazines, the ban would have done no good in that situation, just more pointless "Feel Good" laws.

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:42 am
by killerfly128
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Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:43 am
by marksiwel
killerfly128 wrote:Image
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after a certain point if the barrel becomes too long isnt that considered a Rifle or some such nonsense?

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:43 am
by killerfly128
lrb111 wrote:The little boy in me just wistfully said, "I don't have one of those."
Pistol AR < SBR AR

I am becoming very very close to buying a pistol AR to get a tax stamp for and SBR.

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:45 am
by killerfly128
marksiwel wrote:
killerfly128 wrote:Image
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after a certain point if the barrel becomes too long isnt that considered a Rifle or some such nonsense?
I dont think so. I think it only becomes a rife when it is capable of being fired from the shoulder.

such as this (ignore the select fire switch)
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Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:47 am
by marksiwel
killerfly128 wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
killerfly128 wrote:Image
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after a certain point if the barrel becomes too long isnt that considered a Rifle or some such nonsense?
I dont think so. I think it only becomes a rife when it is capable of being fired from the shoulder.

such as this (ignore the select fire switch)
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good to know, all those Silly BATF Rules confuse me sometime.

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:15 am
by threoh8
I'm not a fan of really big extended magazines for which the firearm was not designed. Some of the factories have done it well, like Glock. Some haven't.
Getting the magazine body, springs, feed lips, follower, etc, to actually work together reliably is harder than it sounds. There's more to it than than just scaling up.
The additional weight and leverage can cause problems in magazine retention.
The added size is a handling problem, too. Sometimes, you can't get too low!

When I was shooting a .308 Remington 788 in NRA High Power Rifle, I made some five- or six-round magazines by splicing two factory three-rounders together. That put more mass lower under the rifle, held in place by a couple of small sheet metal hooks. Under recoil, the retainer would sometimes allow the magazine to drop just far enough to cause a failure to feed, or sometimes just drop the magazine on the ground.

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:17 am
by marksiwel
threoh8 wrote:I'm not a fan of really big extended magazines for which the firearm was not designed. Some of the factories have done it well, like Glock. Some haven't.
Getting the magazine body, springs, feed lips, follower, etc, to actually work together reliably is harder than it sounds. There's more to it than than just scaling up.
The additional weight and leverage can cause problems in magazine retention.
The added size is a handling problem, too. Sometimes, you can't get too low!

When I was shooting a .308 Remington 788 in NRA High Power Rifle, I made some five- or six-round magazines by splicing two factory three-rounders together. That put more mass lower under the rifle, held in place by a couple of small sheet metal hooks. Under recoil, the retainer would sometimes allow the magazine to drop just far enough to cause a failure to feed, or sometimes just drop the magazine on the ground.
bet you knew a good machinist/engineer he could make you one to your specs from scrap
Sound like a fun hoppy for anyone?

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:30 am
by Syntax360
There are many guns that can be made "high cap" by modifying magazines on the market for other pistols (mag catch relocation, usually). My Steyr M9A1 takes 32 round Browning Hi-Power magazines (I believe the S&W M&P and Sigmas will work with these as well) after a few minutes of file work:

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As far as practicality, they are strictly for giggle purposes. They're awful expensive to feed, but if they withstand the test of time w/o turning into a feeding nightmare, I might leave one in my nightstand gun one day... We'll see.

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:53 pm
by Dragonfighter

Re: High capacity mags (> 20 rounds) - Which guns have them?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:54 pm
by marksiwel
Dragonfighter wrote:
Daaaaaaang.
I dont know how that would ever be usefull, but I want 2