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Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:08 am
by surprise_i'm_armed
Asp - Any of several venomous Old World snakes, such as the
small cobra or the horned viper, both of Africa and Asia Minor.
Wasn't this the snake with which Cleopatra killed herself?
I wonder how Texas statutes address the carrying of such
snakes in one's vehicle? :-)
SIA
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:43 am
by boomerang
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:I wonder how Texas statutes address the carrying of such
snakes in one's vehicle? :-)
In a car is OK, but not on a plane.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:06 am
by A-R
Every time I see a demostration of fighting skill with a weapon like that I always think "Wow, that guy has a lot of skill and is certainly very dangerous with that thing if he wants to be. If he ever attacks me, I better just shoot him like Indiana Jones shot the sword guy."
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Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:23 pm
by easyridertejas
SRothstien,
that is exactly why i made the assumption. The PC says it is a violation to carry a club or illegal knife and then goes on to qualify whe it IS a violation. That leaves me to assume if i do not qualify as described it is NOT illegal. Somebody back me up here and tell me if am reading that wrong.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:22 pm
by easyridertejas
I wonder how Texas statutes address the carrying of such
snakes in one's vehicle? :-)
Oh i dont know, but how would politicians get to work if it was just illegal to transport snakes in a car outright?
Jeez, i crack me up.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:32 pm
by wford
I argued this point with the chl attorney a few years back. She was adamant, no illegal knife no club. I must have repeated the phrase 46.02 does not apply ..... 50 times
but she refused to admit the law was how it was written. I have no idea what might have changed since then or if she is still the chl attorney.
srothstein wrote:WildBill wrote:easyridertejas wrote:I read the carry laws to say that i can carry an illegal Knife or club in my car along with a handgun. Now i dont have a sword in my car, but i do like to carry an asp. I read the law to say that i'm ok with it in my car, but when i exit the vehicle with it, i'm commiting a violation. Other than to and form the car. Any comments on my interpretation?
I do not know what law you are trying to interpret, but ... Definitely not! Read the front of your CHL. It is a Concealed
Handgun License. It is not a concealed weapon permit. Nothing in the statues allows you to legally carry anything other than a handgun. INAL, etc.
Wildbill, I have to disagree. No matter what the license says on it, the law clearly states that 46.02 does not apply if you are carrying a CHL and a pistol of the type permitted. I can only take that to mean that I may carry a club or knife with my pistol. In a way, this makes some sense. why would i worry about your carrying a lower level of weapon if you are carrying a firearm? I also know that this may not be the intended interpretation of the law, but intent only comes up when the law itself is not clear.
now, if someone were asking about carrying the club or knife when they did not have the pistol with them also, I would agree with you. That is clearly forbidden.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:43 pm
by bizarrenormality
wford wrote:I argued this point with the chl attorney a few years back. She was adamant, no illegal knife no club. I must have repeated the phrase 46.02 does not apply ..... 50 times
but she refused to admit the law was how it was written. I have no idea what might have changed since then or if she is still the chl attorney.
Unless she's on the jury for your trial, her opinion is her opinion. Nothing more.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:13 pm
by wford
I can see how her opinion could get me arrested. I really dislike juries.
bizarrenormality wrote:wford wrote:I argued this point with the chl attorney a few years back. She was adamant, no illegal knife no club. I must have repeated the phrase 46.02 does not apply ..... 50 times
but she refused to admit the law was how it was written. I have no idea what might have changed since then or if she is still the chl attorney.
Unless she's on the jury for your trial, her opinion is her opinion. Nothing more.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:45 pm
by easyridertejas
I argued this point with the chl attorney a few years back. She was adamant, no illegal knife no club. I must have repeated the phrase 46.02 does not apply ..... 50 times
but she refused to admit the law was how it was written. I have no idea what might have changed since then or if she is still the chl attorney
I was under the impression that the new law extended the meaning of "Castle to include vehicles and motor homes under the control of the citizen.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person [he]
intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or
her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the
person's control
And :
(a-2) For purposes of this section, "premises" includes
real property and a recreational vehicle that is being used as
living quarters, regardless of whether that use is temporary or
permanent. In this subsection, "recreational vehicle" means a motor
vehicle primarily designed as temporary living quarters or a
vehicle that contains temporary living quarters and is designed to
be towed by a motor vehicle. The term includes a travel trailer,
camping trailer, truck camper, motor home, and horse trailer with
living quarters
I dont see any prohibition to having either (club or illegal knife) in or at either. Comments?
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:11 pm
by wford
I was addressing the carrying an illegal knife or club not having it in your car. My discussion with the chl attorney predated the MPA.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:52 pm
by easyridertejas
wford wrote:I was addressing the carrying an illegal knife or club not having it in your car. My discussion with the chl attorney predated the MPA.
My understanding is it is still illegal, even if you have a CHL. Unless you are in your car, home, on your property or in a motor home ect. CHL only licenses you to carry a handgun concealed . No bazookas ( tough to conceal), no M-79's, no chaingun and no pointy sticks. I believe that dangerous rocks are open to interpretation.

Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:48 pm
by ScottDLS
easyridertejas wrote:wford wrote:I was addressing the carrying an illegal knife or club not having it in your car. My discussion with the chl attorney predated the MPA.
My understanding is it is still illegal, even if you have a CHL. Unless you are in your car, home, on your property or in a motor home ect. CHL only licenses you to carry a handgun concealed . No bazookas ( tough to conceal), no M-79's, no chaingun and no pointy sticks. I believe that dangerous rocks are open to interpretation.

No license required for bazookas (Destructive Device) or M-79 or chain gun (machine gun) as they are not handguns.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:11 pm
by easyridertejas
[quoteNo license required for bazookas (Destructive Device) or M-79 or chain gun (machine gun) as they are not handguns.][/quote]
I believe you need a class 3 for the chaingun, just to own one. But who's being picky here? I just like to say "bazooka" a lot and it's tough to work that one in during casual conversation.
Re: Looking for interpetation
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:45 am
by ScottDLS
easyridertejas wrote:[quoteNo license required for bazookas (Destructive Device) or M-79 or chain gun (machine gun) as they are not handguns.]
I believe you need a class 3 for the chaingun, just to own one. But who's being picky here? I just like to say "bazooka" a lot and it's tough to work that one in during casual conversation.
No class 3 FFL required. Just a Federal National Firearms Act (NFA) registration/tax stamp. There are a (very) few pre-1986 registered gatling style mini-guns out there. However the last transferable one I saw for sale was about $100K...
Destructive Devices are
cool... -Beavis
