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marksiwel wrote:do you really think ANYONE thinks the cops are the bad guys in situations like these?

You mean besides the relatives of the guy who got shot?

It seems like there is always someone saying, "they didn't have to shoot him."

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:

marksiwel wrote:do you really think ANYONE thinks the cops are the bad guys in situations like these?

You mean besides the relatives of the guy who got shot?

It seems like there is always someone saying, "they didn't have to shoot him."

- Jim

true. But can you think of any Anti-Cop media folks out there? Just like I cant find people who are "against the troops"
I didnt catch it, but is the officer who was struck by the car okay?

marksiwel wrote:true. But can you think of any Anti-Cop media folks out there? Just like I cant find people who are "against the troops"

I can't think of any reporters who are consistently anti-police, but they sure jump on any implication of police wrongdoing.

They tend to do the same thing with all authority figures.

As for people who are "against the troops," have you forgotten about the Westboro Baptist Church idiots?

The news story said that the officer that was struck did not have life-threatening injuries. That leaves a lot of room for serious damage.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:

marksiwel wrote:true. But can you think of any Anti-Cop media folks out there? Just like I cant find people who are "against the troops"

I can't think of any reporters who are consistently anti-police, but they sure jump on any implication of police wrongdoing.

They tend to do the same thing with all authority figures.

As for people who are "against the troops," have you forgotten about the Westboro Baptist Church idiots?

The news story said that the officer that was struck did not have life-threatening injuries. That leaves a lot of room for serious damage.

- Jim

I'm sorry against the troops and in Journalism or Poltics

No elected official or mainstream journalist will come out and make blanket negative statements about military personnel or police officers in general. However, if you look at the pattern of what they pay attention to and what they ignore, some are quick to criticize and slow to praise any positive accomplishment.

- Jim

The officers and the suspect have been identified. The suspect is a native of the El Paso area. All their names end in z.

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/23040499/detail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No explanation is given for why the suspect tried to flee. If he had open warrants, the information would have come out by now. Maybe he just panicked.

- Jim

the LEO reacted to stop the threat he perceived from the driver - intentional or not

This begs an interesting question. You can intentionally defend yourself and others. But can you unintentionally do so? Is an instinctive reaction like this officer had defensible?

We'll never know, but I wonder if they guy didn't know they were LEO and thought they were coming back to get him for hitting them. If it were me and I thought that I might do the same thing. Or I might put it in reverse. Or I might pull my weapon. Or ...

Most people are going to be involved in a motor vehicle collision at some time in their lives. It might be a good idea to script a response that doesn't include trying to kill the other driver or passengers in the other vehicle afterward.

If you look at the few facts that are available, the collision occurred during day time. The people in the front car were off-duty LEOs, so they probably were not wearing gang colors or covered with Nazi and Satanic tattoos. They may have looked annoyed, but they probably were not ranting and raving. Everyone involved was of the same ethnic group (Mexican-American), so racial or ethnic animosity would not have been a factor.

Probably the situation could have been worked out with no one getting run over or shot.

- Jim

I agree totally, Jim. There's no way to know if this did or not, but some people just panic. Or maybe he knew they cops and was trying to run them over.