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drjoker wrote:However, my cousin Bob's ranch is not open to the public, so with his blessing, I can OC there.

Lawyers, is this true?

Not a lawyer, but: no. Not true.

chabouk wrote:

drjoker wrote:However, my cousin Bob's ranch is not open to the public, so with his blessing, I can OC there.

Lawyers, is this true?

Not a lawyer, but: no. Not true.

Actually I think it is true (of course, IANAL). As an example, the staff at the Bullet Trap in Plano OC's because its private property and they have the owners permission.

See, now that's exactly what's wrong these days - we have been conditioned in to thinking we should waiting on laws that tell us what we CAN do! This AMERICA, and specifically TEXAS, and unless the law specifically say's you can't do it, then you CAN! Way I figure it, if someone is landed gentry and has a BBQ, and say's bring 'em on, then that's all the permission you should need.

There is a difference between actions being legal and actions being tolerated.

Nothing in the law makes it legal for every employee of a business to openly carry a handgun. The law specifically allows the owner or manager to do so.

As a counterpoint, any business that hired an employee to act as a security guard without a commission would be hearing from the police or whatever state agency regulates that sort of thing.

The same goes for private property. If a VIP who owns a ranch wants to have a cookout where everyone is armed, he will probably get a pass (you might recall the behavior that Phil Specter got away with for years).

If someone has a party like that in the middle of town, some ninny is going to call the cops.

There is a narrow exception for reenactors. If everyone wears costumes appropriate to a period and carries weapons appropriate to the period, it's perfectly legal. However, the periods that people commonly reenact do not include semi-auto handguns.

- Jim

SQLGeek wrote:OK this is the second reference I've seen today to BBQ guns. What is a BBQ gun and rig? Be gentle, I'm still a relatively new Texan.

Lawdog has a good post on this topic:

http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006 ... -guns.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That should give you a good idea.

MoJo wrote:The epitome of Bar-B-Q guns is a fully engraved nickle plated Colt Single Action in .45 colt with carved ivory grips (preferably in some Texican motif) carried in a Tom Three Persons holster that is fully tooled in oak leaves and a belt with a Mexican Silver buckle and 20 cartridge loops with Winchester Silver Tip ammo. My friend, that's a real Bar-B-Q rig!

Where's the picture? This post needs a picture!

Dusty Harry wrote:See, now that's exactly what's wrong these days - we have been conditioned in to thinking we should waiting on laws that tell us what we CAN do! This AMERICA, and specifically TEXAS, and unless the law specifically say's you can't do it, then you CAN!

Correct.

46.02 says it's illegal to carry a handgun. Then there are some exceptions. Permission from the land owner is not one of the exceptions as far as I can see.

seamusTX wrote: However, the periods that people commonly reenact do not include semi-auto handguns.

- Jim

There is at least one WWII reenacting organization in Texas and I believe there is a group doing Vietnam as well. Not sure if anybody reenacts the Great War here.

NcongruNt wrote:

SQLGeek wrote:OK this is the second reference I've seen today to BBQ guns. What is a BBQ gun and rig? Be gentle, I'm still a relatively new Texan.

Lawdog has a good post on this topic:

http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006 ... -guns.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That should give you a good idea.

Thanks.

Call it a "Functional Art Exhibit and Barbeque" and get the artsy types to defend it.

SQLGeek wrote:OK this is the second reference I've seen today to BBQ guns. What is a BBQ gun and rig? Be gentle, I'm still a relatively new Texan.

(Thick TX drawl)"You ain't from around here, are ya boy?"

My solution is I don't just have a Barbeque... I have a Shooting match and Barbeque. Then everyone is "Engaging in a sporting activity where guns are used" one of the exceptions to UCW.


And yes I have a shooting range in my back yard.

NOW YA' DID IT...ITS NOT MY FAULT ... !

Reading all tha' post, with interest and humor.. I also noted, I ... DON'T HAVE A BBQ GUN !
Since, I will be invited to these BBQs..more, than need be; I now need one !
Have tha' Springies 1911, with white pearl grips ... been over done ?
See ya' at tha' pit !!!

Mac .45 >>>>>>

Would these be BBQ guns or gun BBQs?