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Bart - you're correct. However the Tea Party was held outside the racetrack area - specifically outside the building and all areas adjacent. That's not covered, like a school's parking lot isn't covered.

Teamless wrote:

denwego wrote:Looked it up... it is indeed owned by the City of Grand Prairie, so the sign was invalid to start with

, on these lines, I dont know if I should start a new thread, or continue this one

At the Pasadena Convention Center, a City owned venue, during the gun show (this weekend and every 4th weekend or so), they bring a sign in, place it on the table when you first walk in the door, before you give them your ticket.
A LEO is there to secure any weapons with zip ties so you can carry (openly) around the gun show, but they also verbally tell ask you if you have any CCW and if so, to un-conceal them.

This is a city owned venue, as stated above, but during events such as the gun show (or Tea Party) is it actually legal to post the 30.06 sign? and Enforce it?

No it is not enforceable, just like the GRB shows. Oddly, I dont believe the OC occurring there is legal either. However all parties seem ok with the current plan so whatever.

rm9792 wrote:

Teamless wrote:

denwego wrote:Looked it up... it is indeed owned by the City of Grand Prairie, so the sign was invalid to start with

, on these lines, I dont know if I should start a new thread, or continue this one

At the Pasadena Convention Center, a City owned venue, during the gun show (this weekend and every 4th weekend or so), they bring a sign in, place it on the table when you first walk in the door, before you give them your ticket.
A LEO is there to secure any weapons with zip ties so you can carry (openly) around the gun show, but they also verbally tell ask you if you have any CCW and if so, to un-conceal them.

This is a city owned venue, as stated above, but during events such as the gun show (or Tea Party) is it actually legal to post the 30.06 sign? and Enforce it?

No it is not enforceable, just like the GRB shows. Oddly, I dont believe the OC occurring there is legal either. However all parties seem ok with the current plan so whatever.

It might be necessary for insurance purposes and such, but no, I don't believe there's any argument for the enforceability of a 30.06 sign on any public property, regardless of who's renting it or for what purpose it's being engaged. A school being used after hours for a community movie night is still a school; a public convention center which is being rented by a private group is still a public convention center. No statute I can find provides for premises to be treated differently based on usage or timing.

I wouldn't mind starting a new thread for the OC-at-a-gun-show discussion, which ties in with "OC at a gun store" and the like. In fact, I think I'll do that!

I have a dangerous question regarding the LEO asking if I have any CCW at the door. What if I say, no? He hasn't asked me for ID and he's not conducting an investigation, so what if I just say, no?

Here's a stock photo of the stadium main entrance. No 30.06 to be found, although it's a bit hard to see:

C-dub wrote:I have a dangerous question regarding the LEO asking if I have any CCW at the door. What if I say, no? He hasn't asked me for ID and he's not conducting an investigation, so what if I just say, no?

Mr Rothstein may correct me but I believe he is acting in the capacity of private security, he is not conducting an official investigation so it is none of his business. They are breaking the law by posting and having you unconceal in a public venue, not you.

Maybe the Democrat's posted the sign themselves to try and make the Repuplicans go back home?

I guess we will never know who put it there and when but it sure wouldn't be a sign I would expect to see at a Tea Party Rally.