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Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:21 am
by A-R
http://www.statesman.com/opinion/progre ... 00227.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Austin Statesman editorial 5/21/10 wrote:Progress, and little else, is stopped at the border

Editorial Board

In the best of times, the relationship between the U.S. and Mexico has been ambivalent. In the worst of times, the neighbors have spilled each other's blood.

The visit to the U.S. by Mexican President Felipe Calderón comes at a point somewhere between ambivalence and arms. Drug trafficking and illegal immigration are flash-point issues on both sides of the border, but for different reasons. Calderón's speech to a joint session of Congress on Thursday should have driven home the realization that the two nations, joined geographically by 2,000 miles of porous border, couldn't be any further apart.

Nothing that happened during the Mexican president's visit did much to bridge those differences despite the usual rhetoric of common purpose and the basic truth that the economic destinies of the two nations are intertwined.

The U.S. and Mexico see each other as a source of each other's problems, as they have since way before 1848, when the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended the Mexican-American War. Mexico lost what is now the southwestern United States when that treaty was signed.

Calderón called anew for reconciling differences, while his remarks on guns and on the new Arizona law cracking down on immigration served to aggravate them. As his predecessors have learned, words about the need for mutual cooperation last for the duration of a state visit — if that — before dissipating in the ether of the curious U.S.-Mexico relationship. The U.S. view of Mexico is informed by geography, and the Mexican view of the U.S. is informed by economics.

Bad economic times in Mexico spur immigration — legal and illegal — to the U.S. and encourage other illicit and illegal activity. Good economic times in the U.S. mean more tourists spending money in Mexican resorts. Bad times here mean worse times there. And no matter how good or bad the economy gets in the U.S., there always seems to be money to buy illegal drugs.

Where the United States sees Mexico as a narcotics peddler, Mexicans see the U.S. as a narcotics consumer whose insatiable appetite for drugs funds the narcotics cartels that are wrecking Mexico's internal security. Moreover, as Calderón noted in his speech, cartels arm themselves with weapons smuggled in from the U.S. Restrictions on automatic weapons passed in 1994 expired six years ago in this country, and Calderón has urged their reinstatement. (emphasis added)

"I have great respect for President Calderón, but he really shouldn't turn this into an opportunity to tell us we should change our laws," snorted U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.

Mexicans bristle when U.S. officials criticize the way their country is governed or comment on its long and storied history of corruption.

It should have been no surprise, then, when Calderón's comments on the Arizona law prompted President Barack Obama — no fan of the law — to distance himself from his Mexican counterpart.

The Arizona law is discriminatory, the Mexican president declared on the first day of his visit. Obama replied that the law had the potential of being applied in a discriminatory manner — a difference that should not be chalked up to mere semantics.

U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith's response to Calderón's criticism was predictable enough.

"Mexican government officials openly talk of a Mexican government boycott of Arizona but make no effort to prevent their citizens from going there," the San Antonio Republican declared. "These latest actions are part of a long history of interference in sovereign American affairs."

The reference to a "long history of interference" must have raised Mexican eyebrows because they see the U.S. as quick to interfere in Mexico's internal affairs.

The lack of progress was as predictable as it is unfortunate. Blaming each other for their problems does nothing to solve them.
My letter to the editor this morning in response wrote:In your May 21 editorial, you make one blatantly false statement about firearms and another that is purposely misleading. Allow me to correct your mistakes.

“Restrictions on (certain types of semi-)automatic weapons passed in 1994 expired six years ago.” Restrictions on automatic weapons were passed with the National Firearms Act of 1934 and have never been repealed.

Mexican “cartels (occasionally) arm themselves with weapons (illegally purchased) and smuggled in from the U.S.”

These straw purchases are already illegal in this country, and numerous reviews show that they represent a small percentage of guns used by Mexican cartels. Only 17% of the guns confiscated from cartels are traceable. Of that small percentage, 90% are traced to the US. More than 83% of cartel guns come from deserting Mexican soldiers and police, South American military sources, and East Asian and Russian black markets.

I’m sure the Statesman regrets these errors.

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:46 am
by bdickens
But that's raaaaaaaciiiiiiissssssstttt!

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:36 am
by joe817
Wow! Well done Rep. McClintock! :tiphat: :patriot:

What he said needed to be said, WHERE it was said.

(many thanks for posting that pb!)

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:47 am
by bdickens
My favorite part whas where Rep. McClintock invited Filipe to immigrate (legally) to the US and become a US citizen if he wanted to interject himself into American politics.

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:15 pm
by Skydivesnake
Infact, Calderon's comments before Congress would be illegal in Mexico, if spoken there by a non-citizen;

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UNDER MEXICO’S CONSTITUTION :[2][4]

• The Mexican constitution expressly forbids non-citizens to participate in the country’s political life.
Non-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics. Article 9 states, “only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country.” Article 33 is unambiguous: “Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/05/0 ... e-tougher/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:22 pm
by Skydivesnake
austinrealtor wrote:http://www.statesman.com/opinion/progre ... 00227.html
Austin Statesman editorial 5/21/10 wrote:Progress, and little else, is stopped at the border

Editorial Board

In the best of times, the relationship between the U.S. and Mexico has been ambivalent. In the worst of times, the neighbors have spilled each other's blood.

The visit to the U.S. by Mexican President Felipe Calderón comes at a point somewhere between ambivalence and arms. Drug trafficking and illegal immigration are flash-point issues on both sides of the border, but for different reasons. Calderón's speech to a joint session of Congress on Thursday should have driven home the realization that the two nations, joined geographically by 2,000 miles of porous border, couldn't be any further apart.

Nothing that happened during the Mexican president's visit did much to bridge those differences despite the usual rhetoric of common purpose and the basic truth that the economic destinies of the two nations are intertwined.

The U.S. and Mexico see each other as a source of each other's problems, as they have since way before 1848, when the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended the Mexican-American War. Mexico lost what is now the southwestern United States when that treaty was signed.

Calderón called anew for reconciling differences, while his remarks on guns and on the new Arizona law cracking down on immigration served to aggravate them. As his predecessors have learned, words about the need for mutual cooperation last for the duration of a state visit — if that — before dissipating in the ether of the curious U.S.-Mexico relationship. The U.S. view of Mexico is informed by geography, and the Mexican view of the U.S. is informed by economics.

Bad economic times in Mexico spur immigration — legal and illegal — to the U.S. and encourage other illicit and illegal activity. Good economic times in the U.S. mean more tourists spending money in Mexican resorts. Bad times here mean worse times there. And no matter how good or bad the economy gets in the U.S., there always seems to be money to buy illegal drugs.

Where the United States sees Mexico as a narcotics peddler, Mexicans see the U.S. as a narcotics consumer whose insatiable appetite for drugs funds the narcotics cartels that are wrecking Mexico's internal security. Moreover, as Calderón noted in his speech, cartels arm themselves with weapons smuggled in from the U.S. Restrictions on automatic weapons passed in 1994 expired six years ago in this country, and Calderón has urged their reinstatement. (emphasis added)

"I have great respect for President Calderón, but he really shouldn't turn this into an opportunity to tell us we should change our laws," snorted U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.

Mexicans bristle when U.S. officials criticize the way their country is governed or comment on its long and storied history of corruption.

It should have been no surprise, then, when Calderón's comments on the Arizona law prompted President Barack Obama — no fan of the law — to distance himself from his Mexican counterpart.

The Arizona law is discriminatory, the Mexican president declared on the first day of his visit. Obama replied that the law had the potential of being applied in a discriminatory manner — a difference that should not be chalked up to mere semantics.

U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith's response to Calderón's criticism was predictable enough.

"Mexican government officials openly talk of a Mexican government boycott of Arizona but make no effort to prevent their citizens from going there," the San Antonio Republican declared. "These latest actions are part of a long history of interference in sovereign American affairs."

The reference to a "long history of interference" must have raised Mexican eyebrows because they see the U.S. as quick to interfere in Mexico's internal affairs.

The lack of progress was as predictable as it is unfortunate. Blaming each other for their problems does nothing to solve them.
My letter to the editor this morning in response wrote:In your May 21 editorial, you make one blatantly false statement about firearms and another that is purposely misleading. Allow me to correct your mistakes.

“Restrictions on (certain types of semi-)automatic weapons passed in 1994 expired six years ago.” Restrictions on automatic weapons were passed with the National Firearms Act of 1934 and have never been repealed.

Mexican “cartels (occasionally) arm themselves with weapons (illegally purchased) and smuggled in from the U.S.”

These straw purchases are already illegal in this country, and numerous reviews show that they represent a small percentage of guns used by Mexican cartels. Only 17% of the guns confiscated from cartels are traceable. Of that small percentage, 90% are traced to the US. More than 83% of cartel guns come from deserting Mexican soldiers and police, South American military sources, and East Asian and Russian black markets.

I’m sure the Statesman regrets these errors.
Well said - infact one could go farther and mention the AK+ammunition factory Chavez has up and running in Venezuela since 2009, which are supplied to FARC and others, and which are then transported to Mexico alongside the Colombian cocaine.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/20081026.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:57 am
by RPB
I doubt that the machine guns used on Lake Falcon came from the U.S.A.
http://beforeitsnews.com/news/47/853/HO ... rates.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The training of course is not U.S.A. based
http://bignews.biz/?id=799408&pg=1&keys ... xico-gangs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, I can understand why a foreign born acting like he is President Barry Soetoro (isn't that what his Passport to Pakistan says his name is?) oops, I mean Obama wants to let them in and prohibit border States like Arizona from stopping them, but I imagine Mexico's President is motivated monetarily through the hawala
Video 1: http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Video 2: http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Times Square bomb suspect Faisal Shahzad reportedly claimed he received financial support from the Pakistani Taliban for his failed attack.

Two federal law enforcement officials told the Associated Press they believe funding for Shahzad's plans was channeled through an underground money network known as "hawala.''

However, the officials say the people suspected of providing Shahzad money in the United States, including three people detained in Massachusetts and Maine, did not know what the money would be used for.

The AP also reported that authorities in Pakistan took six men into custody in connection with the car bomb plot, including the co-owner of a catering company that has done events for the U.S. Embassy.

Like Shazhad, the detainees are all said to be members of Pakistan's urban elite, and several were educated in America.

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Google the word "Takeyya" or "Taqiyya" and "kitman"
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/25320" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
" taqiyya and kitman were formed within the context of the Arab-Islamic matrix of tribalism, expansionary warfare and conflict. Taqiyya has been used by Muslims since the 7th century to confuse and split 'the enemy'. A favored tactic was ‘deceptive triangulation'; to persuade the enemy that jihad was not aimed at them but at another enemy. Another tactic was to deny that there was jihad at all"

to confuse and split 'the enemy' ....... you mean try to turn people against Arizona who is trying to stop an invasion of terrorists trained in countries south of our border??
hmmmm


deny that there was jihad at all .... just have a Mexcan President denounce bad AZ for racial profiling ...

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Makes one wonder who ACTUALLY paid for the ammo in this situation hawala or ...?...
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=5003" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/u...ood-documents/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


hmmmm

I'd sure like to see about a 48 year history of Barry Soetoro's and his parents' financial records, especially when they lived in Pakistan.
(Dunham was nicknamed Anna, later known as Dr. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, ... in Jakarta and she consulted with the Asian Development Bank in Pakistan)

I read a book once "The MAKING of a President 1960"
I await a sequel ...

I"m really impressed that, unlike President Kennedy, a poor black kid in Pakistan can work his way up to President of the United States, with no outside help. Aren't you?
The Godfather ... The favor
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jo64fzLUnFw[/youtube]

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:03 pm
by tacticool
Mexico benefits immensely from the narcotics trade. They don't want to stop it.

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:31 pm
by RPB
tacticool wrote:Mexico benefits immensely from the narcotics trade. They don't want to stop it.
I'm sure the same can be said for the "hawala.''
I'll try it and see ...

Mexico's officials benefit immensely from the underground money network known as "hawala.'' They don't want to stop it nor close the terrorist groups training camps.

Yup.

Don't them poppies grow well over there?
Gotta have a good distribution network to get them into the USA

During the 1990's, Afghanistan poppies supplied approximately 70% of the world's opium. Opium poppies have always been grown on both sides of Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, but the region did not become the world's main exporter of heroin until the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 (During which Osama Bin Laden was trained by the USA)

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:40 pm
by tacticool
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60L0X120100122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mexican cartels, which control most of the cocaine and methamphetamine smuggled into the United States, bring an estimated $25 billion to $40 billion into Mexico from their global operations every year.

To put that in perspective: Mexico probably made more money in 2009 moving drugs than it did exporting oil, its single biggest legitimate foreign currency earner.

From the white Caribbean beaches of Cancun to violent towns on the U.S. border and the beauty parlors of Mexico City's wealthy suburbs, drug cash is everywhere in Mexico. It has even propped up the country's banking system, helping it ride out the financial crisis and aiding the country's economy.

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:43 pm
by tacticool
From an article by George Friedman earlier this year.
On the whole, Mexico is a tremendous beneficiary of the drug trade. Even if some of the profits are invested overseas, the pool of remaining money flowing into Mexico creates tremendous liquidity in the Mexican economy at a time of global recession. It is difficult to trace where the drug money is going, which follows from its illegality. Certainly, drug dealers would want their money in a jurisdiction where it could not be easily seized even if tracked. U.S. asset seizure laws for drug trafficking make the United States an unlikely haven. Though money clearly flows out of Mexico, the ability of the smugglers to influence the behavior of the Mexican government by investing some of it makes Mexico a likely destination for a substantial portion of such funds.

The money does not, however, flow back into the hands of the gunmen shooting it out on the border; even their bosses couldn't manage funds of that magnitude. And while money can be - and often is - baled up and hidden, the value of money is in its use. As with illegal money everywhere, the goal is to wash it and invest it in legitimate enterprises where it can produce more money. That means it has to enter the economy through legitimate institutions - banks and other financial entities - and then be redeployed into the economy. This is no different from the American Mafia's practice during and after Prohibition.

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:57 pm
by HankB
In regard to the Calderon speech before Congress . . .

Local paper had a report that a number of GOP legislators boycotted the speech. The first four of approximately 7 1/2 rows reserved for GOP legislators were nearly empty . . . but were apparently filled with legislative pages on someone's order. No doubt to avoid embarrassing Mexico's President Calderon and his staffers, Pelosi and Reed.

(Next time - if there is a next time - the GOP should fill the seats themselves, and quietly walk out when the speaker begins dissing the USA.)

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:35 pm
by handog
pbwalker wrote:[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs[/youtube]

And from California! Go McClintock!

I had to send McClintock an email to give him a :thumbs2: after hearing his responce. Here is the reply:

Dear Mr. handog:


Thank you for writing regarding my response to Mexican President Felipe Calderon's speech to Congress (to view my speech, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). I have been encouraged to hear from thousands of Americans who, like you, believe that effective immigration policy requires enforcing current law and encouraging assimilation of legal immigrants.


Tomorrow afternoon I will be discussing immigration and President Calderon's speech on the Lou Dobbs radio show. If you would like to listen in, please visit my web site at http://www.mcclintock.house.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, and visit "Upcoming Media Appearances" on the homepage.



Thank you once again for your involvement on this critical issue.

Sincerely,

Tom

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:22 pm
by E.Marquez
I applaud Mr McClintocks stand,,,
And I too wrote a letter expressing my concern and gratitude for a job well done..
Though I was a bit disappointed to receive an automatic form reply just seconds after sending the letter...
Understanding full well, the letter was not read by a human, nor ever likely to be seen by the Congressman himself.
Dear Mr. Marquez:


Thank you for writing regarding my response to Mexican President Felipe Calderon's speech to Congress (to view my speech, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs> ). I have been encouraged to hear from thousands of Americans who, like you, believe that effective immigration policy requires enforcing current law and encouraging assimilation of legal immigrants.



Tomorrow afternoon I will be discussing immigration and President Calderon's speech on the Lou Dobbs radio show. If you would like to listen in, please visit my web site at http://www.mcclintock.house.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; <http://www.mcclintock.house.gov/> , and visit "Upcoming Media Appearances" on the homepage.



Thank you once again for your involvement on this critical issue.

Sincerely,

Tom

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handog wrote:
pbwalker wrote:[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs[/youtube]

And from California! Go McClintock!

I had to send McClintock an email to give him a :thumbs2: after hearing his responce. Here is the reply:

Dear Mr. handog:


Thank you for writing regarding my response to Mexican President Felipe Calderon's speech to Congress (to view my speech, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx8gZDwZWs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). I have been encouraged to hear from thousands of Americans who, like you, believe that effective immigration policy requires enforcing current law and encouraging assimilation of legal immigrants.


Tomorrow afternoon I will be discussing immigration and President Calderon's speech on the Lou Dobbs radio show. If you would like to listen in, please visit my web site at http://www.mcclintock.house.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, and visit "Upcoming Media Appearances" on the homepage.



Thank you once again for your involvement on this critical issue.

Sincerely,

Tom

Re: Mexican President Felipe Calderon

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:29 pm
by C-dub
Anyone ever hear Ron White's opinion on what we should do about Mexico?