
Watch Party
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Oh, that kind of "watch party"......I thought it was going to be snooty watch owners 

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I few months ago, I attended a TOOL concert with a friend at the Cedar Park Center. I had no intention of carrying into the even, although I am CHL holder. The facility is owned by the city, and the event was a concert, not affiliated with any sporting event. There was no signage, no 30.06, no TABC signage to be seen. As I was being pat down at the door, I overheard someone next to me being told that "chl holders cannot carry firearms into the event". I asked the person patting me down if I had heard correctly, and he told me that "CHL doesnt apply to public events like concert." I laughed and just moved along.
A few minutes later I saw a uniformed security employee. I approached her and kindly asked her who employed the staff conducting the pat-downs. She told me that it was members of the bands security team. This explained their ignorance, but when she asked me why I was asking I told her that they were telling customers that "CHL's didnt apply to public events like a concert." She told me that they were correct, and that it was a building policy. I quickly emplained that I was confused because this is a city-owned building, there is no sporting event taking place, and there are no signs indicating anything regarding TABC or 30.06. She just repeated it was building policy. At that point I had said what I wanted to and didnt want to get into an arguement when a man walked up and introduced himself at the venues head of security. I explained that I wasnt trying to make a fuss, but what we were discussing how door security was denying chl holders entry with a weapon, and that I was confused as to the legitimacy of that stance considering city building, no signs, blah blah. He responded that it was building policy. I told him that as a city owned building, without a sporting event taking place, and no 51% signage, it doesnt work like that, and as head of security he should really look into this issue. He reapeated that it was building policy. He then became flustered and told me I should go to my seat and enjoy the show. Which I did.
I checked with a cedar park police officer on my way out and he assured me that you can carry in the venue, but that they like to record your information for their records.
Sorry if my story drug on, I just wanted to share my experience with the unknowledgeable head of security at the Cedar Park Center. What do yall think?
A few minutes later I saw a uniformed security employee. I approached her and kindly asked her who employed the staff conducting the pat-downs. She told me that it was members of the bands security team. This explained their ignorance, but when she asked me why I was asking I told her that they were telling customers that "CHL's didnt apply to public events like a concert." She told me that they were correct, and that it was a building policy. I quickly emplained that I was confused because this is a city-owned building, there is no sporting event taking place, and there are no signs indicating anything regarding TABC or 30.06. She just repeated it was building policy. At that point I had said what I wanted to and didnt want to get into an arguement when a man walked up and introduced himself at the venues head of security. I explained that I wasnt trying to make a fuss, but what we were discussing how door security was denying chl holders entry with a weapon, and that I was confused as to the legitimacy of that stance considering city building, no signs, blah blah. He responded that it was building policy. I told him that as a city owned building, without a sporting event taking place, and no 51% signage, it doesnt work like that, and as head of security he should really look into this issue. He reapeated that it was building policy. He then became flustered and told me I should go to my seat and enjoy the show. Which I did.
I checked with a cedar park police officer on my way out and he assured me that you can carry in the venue, but that they like to record your information for their records.
Sorry if my story drug on, I just wanted to share my experience with the unknowledgeable head of security at the Cedar Park Center. What do yall think?
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That security guards don't actually know anything about the law, so asking them about it is pointlessTexas820 wrote: Sorry if my story drug on, I just wanted to share my experience with the unknowledgeable head of security at the Cedar Park Center. What do yall think?

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Its kinda like trying to teach calculus to my dog. I've tried for years, all he does is look at me and blink once or twice.dicion wrote:That security guards don't actually know anything about the law, so asking them about it is pointlessTexas820 wrote: Sorry if my story drug on, I just wanted to share my experience with the unknowledgeable head of security at the Cedar Park Center. What do yall think?
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I think TX State Law trumps building policy.Texas820 wrote:[...]"chl holders cannot carry firearms into the event". [...] it was a building policy. [...] it was building policy. [...] He responded that it was building policy. [...] He reapeated that it was building policy. [...]
What do yall think?
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