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Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:55 pm
by rbftfire
The Wal-Mart in Denton still sells rifles and shotguns.

Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:47 pm
by seniorshooteress
Yeah, I wanna know where this Wal-Mart is. Enjoyed reading the comments. Interesting to see how another country views our interest in guns. Was also interesting to read another posters comments on the cost of health care in China. Maybe our government should check out what type of system they use.

Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:22 pm
by suthdj
seniorshooteress wrote:Yeah, I wanna know where this Wal-Mart is. Enjoyed reading the comments. Interesting to see how another country views our interest in guns. Was also interesting to read another posters comments on the cost of health care in China. Maybe our government should check out what type of system they use.
Oh and trust me you don't wait 2 hours to see a Dr either it is in and out, they have too may people to be wasting time on anyone.

Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:21 pm
by Hoi Polloi
suthdj wrote:
seniorshooteress wrote:Yeah, I wanna know where this Wal-Mart is. Enjoyed reading the comments. Interesting to see how another country views our interest in guns. Was also interesting to read another posters comments on the cost of health care in China. Maybe our government should check out what type of system they use.
Oh and trust me you don't wait 2 hours to see a Dr either it is in and out, they have too may people to be wasting time on anyone.
Just a tiny window into Chinese health care:
Simple explanation of Chinese health care system
Forced abortions and sterilizations as matter of law in China
One-child policy leads to infanticide
In China, too, a health-care system in disarray

Combine that with their atrocious human rights' record, including in present day, and you have a situation I wouldn't want to emulate even in an armed society. It's no wonder their government forbids them from having guns!

Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:40 pm
by tacticool
I want one of those lazy susan things in my gun room.

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Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:01 am
by suthdj
Hoi Polloi wrote:
suthdj wrote:
seniorshooteress wrote:Yeah, I wanna know where this Wal-Mart is. Enjoyed reading the comments. Interesting to see how another country views our interest in guns. Was also interesting to read another posters comments on the cost of health care in China. Maybe our government should check out what type of system they use.
Oh and trust me you don't wait 2 hours to see a Dr either it is in and out, they have too may people to be wasting time on anyone.
Just a tiny window into Chinese health care:
Simple explanation of Chinese health care system
Forced abortions and sterilizations as matter of law in China
One-child policy leads to infanticide
In China, too, a health-care system in disarray

Combine that with their atrocious human rights' record, including in present day, and you have a situation I wouldn't want to emulate even in an armed society. It's no wonder their government forbids them from having guns!

Before you read the propaganda in all the news rags go there, talk to some Chinese, it is not all like you read in the press. Remember to keep your mind open and look to both sides of an equation. They have rules for a reason. The Chinese accept these rules as a whole and understand the need.

Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:27 pm
by drjoker
suthdj wrote:
Hoi Polloi wrote:
suthdj wrote:
seniorshooteress wrote:Yeah, I wanna know where this Wal-Mart is. Enjoyed reading the comments. Interesting to see how another country views our interest in guns. Was also interesting to read another posters comments on the cost of health care in China. Maybe our government should check out what type of system they use.
Oh and trust me you don't wait 2 hours to see a Dr either it is in and out, they have too may people to be wasting time on anyone.
Just a tiny window into Chinese health care:
Simple explanation of Chinese health care system
Forced abortions and sterilizations as matter of law in China
One-child policy leads to infanticide
In China, too, a health-care system in disarray

Combine that with their atrocious human rights' record, including in present day, and you have a situation I wouldn't want to emulate even in an armed society. It's no wonder their government forbids them from having guns!

Before you read the propaganda in all the news rags go there, talk to some Chinese, it is not all like you read in the press. Remember to keep your mind open and look to both sides of an equation. They have rules for a reason. The Chinese accept these rules as a whole and understand the need.
Actually, I've been to China on numerous occasions. Your health care quality depends on what part of China you live in, how much money you have, and how serious your illness is. Health care in China for minor illnesses is cheaper than that in the US and it is also almost as good. That's because there are a lot more "doctors" in China than there is in the US plus public health care is subsidized. However, those "doctors" are only good for minor illnesses. They are only called "doctors" but they are less highly trained than a P.A. in the USA. This is because there are lots of "barefoot doctors" in China. These are "doctors" that have attended a 2 year associate's program fresh out of high school. Yep, we're talking 19 & 20 yr old "doctors". I wouldn't trust them to see me for anything other than a minor cough, cold, or flu.

Now, if you would like to see a real Md doctor, then that's a different story. There is a shortage of Md doctors in rural areas. The better Md doctors are in the big cities with the best Md doctors residing in former British Hong Kong. There is a very long waiting list (years) if you want to see a quality public doctor unless you are a high ranking public official such as fire chief, police chief, communist party boss, etc. If you'd like to see a quality doctor but can't wait months or years, then you'd have to see a private doctor. These doctors are expensive with a capital E, but still cheaper than seeing the equivalent in the USA. However, the doctor's fee as a proportion of a person's paycheck, it is much higher priced than in the USA because people in China typically make a lot less money than people in the USA.

In other words, health care is cheap and plentiful if you want second rate health care. If you want quality health care, then it will be unaffordable unless you are politically connected.

Re: Guns at WalMart - Chinese Views

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:17 am
by suthdj
drjoker wrote:
suthdj wrote:
Hoi Polloi wrote:
suthdj wrote:
seniorshooteress wrote:Yeah, I wanna know where this Wal-Mart is. Enjoyed reading the comments. Interesting to see how another country views our interest in guns. Was also interesting to read another posters comments on the cost of health care in China. Maybe our government should check out what type of system they use.
Oh and trust me you don't wait 2 hours to see a Dr either it is in and out, they have too may people to be wasting time on anyone.
Just a tiny window into Chinese health care:
Simple explanation of Chinese health care system
Forced abortions and sterilizations as matter of law in China
One-child policy leads to infanticide
In China, too, a health-care system in disarray

Combine that with their atrocious human rights' record, including in present day, and you have a situation I wouldn't want to emulate even in an armed society. It's no wonder their government forbids them from having guns!

Before you read the propaganda in all the news rags go there, talk to some Chinese, it is not all like you read in the press. Remember to keep your mind open and look to both sides of an equation. They have rules for a reason. The Chinese accept these rules as a whole and understand the need.
Actually, I've been to China on numerous occasions. Your health care quality depends on what part of China you live in, how much money you have, and how serious your illness is. Health care in China for minor illnesses is cheaper than that in the US and it is also almost as good. That's because there are a lot more "doctors" in China than there is in the US plus public health care is subsidized. However, those "doctors" are only good for minor illnesses. They are only called "doctors" but they are less highly trained than a P.A. in the USA. This is because there are lots of "barefoot doctors" in China. These are "doctors" that have attended a 2 year associate's program fresh out of high school. Yep, we're talking 19 & 20 yr old "doctors". I wouldn't trust them to see me for anything other than a minor cough, cold, or flu.

Now, if you would like to see a real Md doctor, then that's a different story. There is a shortage of Md doctors in rural areas. The better Md doctors are in the big cities with the best Md doctors residing in former British Hong Kong. There is a very long waiting list (years) if you want to see a quality public doctor unless you are a high ranking public official such as fire chief, police chief, communist party boss, etc. If you'd like to see a quality doctor but can't wait months or years, then you'd have to see a private doctor. These doctors are expensive with a capital E, but still cheaper than seeing the equivalent in the USA. However, the doctor's fee as a proportion of a person's paycheck, it is much higher priced than in the USA because people in China typically make a lot less money than people in the USA.

In other words, health care is cheap and plentiful if you want second rate health care. If you want quality health care, then it will be unaffordable unless you are politically connected.
Can't speak for the rural areas as my wife is from ChongQing I believe the largest city not sure if it is largest by population or area but either way neither her nor her family is "connected" and does not have problems seeing a Dr in fact tomorrow my wife is getting an IUD put in for about $100 here it would cost $1200. China has changed allot over the years it is more open and in many ways more modern then the US as well as way behind in other ways. But anyway I don't want to hijack this thread it is about Chinese perception on our right to own guns. Sorry for the deviation.